Yeah, ask those friends if in a situation where “giving it their all” and “being men” made them less happy and made the world a worse place, whether they would still stick with their philosophies.
How about this answer: “If that makes me less happy and makes the world a worse place, the world would be decidedly weird in a lot of fundamental and ubiquitous ways. I am unable to comprehend what such a weird world would be like in enough detail to make meaningful statements about what I would do in it.”
Let’s just focus on “giving it your all.” What is “it”?? You surely can’t give everything your all. How do you choose which goals to pursue? “Giving it your all” is a bit abstract.
How about this answer: “If that makes me less happy and makes the world a worse place, the world would be decidedly weird in a lot of fundamental and ubiquitous ways. I am unable to comprehend what such a weird world would be like in enough detail to make meaningful statements about what I would do in it.”
Let’s just focus on “giving it your all.” What is “it”?? You surely can’t give everything your all. How do you choose which goals to pursue? “Giving it your all” is a bit abstract.