Really, Chris. So if I believe in the value of the environment, but believe that it’s much less valuable than the use to be gained by paving it over with strip mines, then I’m an “environmentalist”?
In any case it’s a moot point. Mark Plus coined the term “Singularitarian”, but didn’t do much with it; when I decided to build a Singularitarian movement, I asked Mark Plus for ownership of the word and was granted it; and I define the term to involve activism. If you mean something else by the word, feel free to call yourself a “Singularian” or something.
I think Chris was talking about value in a relative sense (though ironicly was sloppy and left his statement too vague).
What’s more surprising here is that you guys are arguing over a definition of environmentalim. Taboo it and you’d probably agree.
Most surprising of all is seeing you claim you own a word, Eliezer. I may have just started reading these sequences but I’m pretty sure there was a post or two on how you can’t just define a word how you want.
Ironically enough you are guarding singularitarianism with your comment. And you’re doing it by redefining the word to suit youside. And im pretty sure its a redefinement. The normative use for singularitarianist doesn’t involve activism. Nor does environmentalist. You might value one singularitarianist or environmentalist more than another if they are an activist for thecause, but that’s another matter.
Really, Chris. So if I believe in the value of the environment, but believe that it’s much less valuable than the use to be gained by paving it over with strip mines, then I’m an “environmentalist”?
In any case it’s a moot point. Mark Plus coined the term “Singularitarian”, but didn’t do much with it; when I decided to build a Singularitarian movement, I asked Mark Plus for ownership of the word and was granted it; and I define the term to involve activism. If you mean something else by the word, feel free to call yourself a “Singularian” or something.
Were/Are you joking? Seriously. I don’t understand how one can own a word. Did I miss something?
I’m not disagreeing that it might involve activism (though I would define activism quite broadly), but how can one “own” a word?
Might I suggest open-sourcing the word?
Oh, and also, like, every other word, ever?
I think Chris was talking about value in a relative sense (though ironicly was sloppy and left his statement too vague).
What’s more surprising here is that you guys are arguing over a definition of environmentalim. Taboo it and you’d probably agree.
Most surprising of all is seeing you claim you own a word, Eliezer. I may have just started reading these sequences but I’m pretty sure there was a post or two on how you can’t just define a word how you want.
Ironically enough you are guarding singularitarianism with your comment. And you’re doing it by redefining the word to suit youside. And im pretty sure its a redefinement. The normative use for singularitarianist doesn’t involve activism. Nor does environmentalist. You might value one singularitarianist or environmentalist more than another if they are an activist for thecause, but that’s another matter.