Might be worth noting that the customer base patio11 is probably most familiar with are people who pay money for a program that lets them print bingo cards. They might be a different demographic than people who know what a gwern is.
For a data point, I live in RSS, don’t voluntarily follow any newsletters, and have become conditioned to associate the ones I do get from some places I’m registered at as semi-spam. Also if I pay money for something, then it becomes a burdensome Rare and Valuable Possession I Must Now Find a Safe Place For, instead of a neat thing I can go look at, then forget all about, then go look up again after five years based on some vaguely remembered details. So I’ll save myself stress if I stick with free stuff.
They might be a different demographic than people who know what a gwern is.
Maybe. On the other hand, would you entertain for even a second the thought of paying for an RSS feed? Personally, I can think of paying for an email newsletter if it’s worth it, but the thought of paying for a blog with an RSS feed triggers an ‘undefined’ error in my head.
Also if I pay money for something, then it becomes a burdensome Rare and Valuable Possession I Must Now Find a Safe Place For, instead of a neat thing I can go look at, then forget all about, then go look up again after five years based on some vaguely remembered details.
Email is infinitely superior to RSS in this respect; everyone gets a durable copy and many people back up their emails (including you—right? right?). I have emails going back to 2004. In contrast, I’m not sure how I would get my RSS feeds from a year ago since Google Reader seems to expire stuff at random, never mind 2006 or whenever I started using RSS.
You’re right about the paying part. I don’t care to even begin worrying about how setting Google Reader to fetch something from beyond a paywall might work, but e-mail from a paid service makes perfect sense, tech-wise.
And now that you mention it, if I were living in an email client instead of Google Reader, I could probably get along just fine having stuff from my RSS subscriptions get pushed into my mailbox. Unfortunately, after 15 years I still use email so little that I basically consider it a hostile alien environment and haven’t had enough interesting stuff go on there so far that I’d ever really felt the need to back up my mails. Setting up a proper email workflow and archiving wouldn’t be a very big hurdle if I ever got reason to bother with it though.
An actual thing I would like is an archived log of “I read this thing today and it was interesting”, preferrably with an archive of the thing. I currently use Google Reader’s starring thing for this, but that’s leaving stuff I actually do care about archiving at Google’s uncertain mercy, which is bad. Directing RSS to email would get me this for free.
Did I just talk myself into possibly starting to use email properly with an use case where I’d mostly be mailing stuff to myself?
I’d recommend using Blogtrottr for turning the content from your RSS feeds into email messages. Indeed, as email is (incidentally) the only web-related tool I can (and must) consistently use throughout the day, I tend to bring a major part of the relevant web content I’m interested in to my email inbox—including twitter status updates, LW Discussion posts, etc.
I’ve watched people waste countless hours dealing with regular blog software like Wordpress and don’t want to go anywhere near it,
If some people are willing to pay for your news, maybe you could find a volunteer (by telling them that creating the blog software is the condition for you to publish) to make the website.
To emulate the (lack of) functionality of an e-mail, you only need to log in as the administrator, and write a new article. The Markdown syntax, as used on LW, could be a good choice. Then the website must display the list of articles, the individual articles, and the RSS feed. That’s it; someone could do that in a weekend. And you would get the extra functionality of being able to correct mistakes in already published articles, and make hyperlinks between them.
Then you need functionality to manage users: log in as user, change the password, adding and removing users as admin. There could even be an option for users to enter their e-mails, so the new articles will be sent to them automatically (so they de facto have a choice between web and e-mail format). This all is still within a weekend or two of work.
I meant in my existing static site setup. (If I were to set up a blog of my own, it would probably go into a subdomain, yes.)
If some people are willing to pay for your news, maybe you could find a volunteer (by telling them that creating the blog software is the condition for you to publish) to make the website.
How would that help?
And you would get the extra functionality of being able to correct mistakes in already published articles, and make hyperlinks between them.
I don’t often need to correct mistakes in snippets, month-old LW comments, etc. I do often correct my essays, but those are not the issue.
I’ve watched people waste countless hours dealing with regular blog software like Wordpress and don’t want to go anywhere near it,
Have you considered a Google Blogger site? They aren’t quite as customizable as WordPress, but you can put AdSense on your site in like 5-10 minutes, if you’re interested. Plus free hosting, even with your own domain name. I’ve used blogger for years, and I’ve never had downtime or technical problems.
Those incredibly awful sites with the immovable header obscuring everything and broken scrollbars and stuff? No, I’ve never considered them, although I’m glad they’re not as insecure and maintenance heavy as the other solutions… (I already have AdSense on gwern.net, and hosting isn’t really a big cost right now.)
Reasons for ‘not a blog’:
I don’t have any natural place on gwern.net for a blog
I’ve watched people waste countless hours dealing with regular blog software like Wordpress and don’t want to go anywhere near it,
Reasons for email specifically:
email lists like Google Groups or MailChimp seem both secure and easy to use for once-a-month updates
more people seem to still use email than RSS readers these days
patio11 says that geeks/Web people systematically underrate the usefulness of an email newsletter
there’s much more acceptance of charging for an email newsletter
Might be worth noting that the customer base patio11 is probably most familiar with are people who pay money for a program that lets them print bingo cards. They might be a different demographic than people who know what a gwern is.
For a data point, I live in RSS, don’t voluntarily follow any newsletters, and have become conditioned to associate the ones I do get from some places I’m registered at as semi-spam. Also if I pay money for something, then it becomes a burdensome Rare and Valuable Possession I Must Now Find a Safe Place For, instead of a neat thing I can go look at, then forget all about, then go look up again after five years based on some vaguely remembered details. So I’ll save myself stress if I stick with free stuff.
Maybe. On the other hand, would you entertain for even a second the thought of paying for an RSS feed? Personally, I can think of paying for an email newsletter if it’s worth it, but the thought of paying for a blog with an RSS feed triggers an ‘undefined’ error in my head.
Email is infinitely superior to RSS in this respect; everyone gets a durable copy and many people back up their emails (including you—right? right?). I have emails going back to 2004. In contrast, I’m not sure how I would get my RSS feeds from a year ago since Google Reader seems to expire stuff at random, never mind 2006 or whenever I started using RSS.
You’re right about the paying part. I don’t care to even begin worrying about how setting Google Reader to fetch something from beyond a paywall might work, but e-mail from a paid service makes perfect sense, tech-wise.
And now that you mention it, if I were living in an email client instead of Google Reader, I could probably get along just fine having stuff from my RSS subscriptions get pushed into my mailbox. Unfortunately, after 15 years I still use email so little that I basically consider it a hostile alien environment and haven’t had enough interesting stuff go on there so far that I’d ever really felt the need to back up my mails. Setting up a proper email workflow and archiving wouldn’t be a very big hurdle if I ever got reason to bother with it though.
An actual thing I would like is an archived log of “I read this thing today and it was interesting”, preferrably with an archive of the thing. I currently use Google Reader’s starring thing for this, but that’s leaving stuff I actually do care about archiving at Google’s uncertain mercy, which is bad. Directing RSS to email would get me this for free.
Did I just talk myself into possibly starting to use email properly with an use case where I’d mostly be mailing stuff to myself?
I’d recommend using Blogtrottr for turning the content from your RSS feeds into email messages. Indeed, as email is (incidentally) the only web-related tool I can (and must) consistently use throughout the day, I tend to bring a major part of the relevant web content I’m interested in to my email inbox—including twitter status updates, LW Discussion posts, etc.
How about “blog.gwern.net″ or even ”gwernblog.net″?
If some people are willing to pay for your news, maybe you could find a volunteer (by telling them that creating the blog software is the condition for you to publish) to make the website.
To emulate the (lack of) functionality of an e-mail, you only need to log in as the administrator, and write a new article. The Markdown syntax, as used on LW, could be a good choice. Then the website must display the list of articles, the individual articles, and the RSS feed. That’s it; someone could do that in a weekend. And you would get the extra functionality of being able to correct mistakes in already published articles, and make hyperlinks between them.
Then you need functionality to manage users: log in as user, change the password, adding and removing users as admin. There could even be an option for users to enter their e-mails, so the new articles will be sent to them automatically (so they de facto have a choice between web and e-mail format). This all is still within a weekend or two of work.
I meant in my existing static site setup. (If I were to set up a blog of my own, it would probably go into a subdomain, yes.)
How would that help?
I don’t often need to correct mistakes in snippets, month-old LW comments, etc. I do often correct my essays, but those are not the issue.
Have you considered a Google Blogger site? They aren’t quite as customizable as WordPress, but you can put AdSense on your site in like 5-10 minutes, if you’re interested. Plus free hosting, even with your own domain name. I’ve used blogger for years, and I’ve never had downtime or technical problems.
Those incredibly awful sites with the immovable header obscuring everything and broken scrollbars and stuff? No, I’ve never considered them, although I’m glad they’re not as insecure and maintenance heavy as the other solutions… (I already have AdSense on gwern.net, and hosting isn’t really a big cost right now.)