In addition to all you’ve said, this line of reasoning ALSO puts an unreasonable degree of expectation on ASI’s potential and makes it into a magical infinite wish-granting genie that would thus be worth any risk to have at our beck and call. And that just doesn’t feel backed by reality to me. ASI would be smarter than us, but even assuming we can keep it aligned (big if), it would still be limited by the physical laws of reality. If some things are impossible, maybe they’re just impossible. It would really suck ass if you risked the whole future lightcone and ended up in that nuclear-blasted world living in a bunker and THEN the ASI when you ask it for immortality laughs in your face and goes “what, you believe in those fairy tales? Everything must die. Not even I can reverse entropy”.
I named a method that is compatible with known medical science and known information, it simply requires more labor and a greater level of skill than humans are currently capable of. Meaning that every step already happens in nature, it is just currently too complex to reproduce.
Here’s an overview:
repairing the brain by adding new cells. Nature builds new brains from scratch with new cells, this step is possible.
Bypassing gaps in the brain despite (1) with neural implants to restore missing connectivity. Has been demonstrated in rat experiments, is possible
Building new organs from de-aged cells lines:
a. Nature creates de aged cell lines with each new embryo
b. Nature creates new organs with each embryonic development
4. Stacking parallel probabilities so that the person’s MTBF is sufficiently long. This exists and is a known technique.
This in no way defeats entropy. Eventually the patient will die, but it is possible to stack probabilities to make their projected lifespan the life of the universe, or on the order of a million years, if you can afford the number of parallel systems required. The system constantly requires energy input and recycling of a lot of equipment.
Obviously a better treatment involves rebuilt bodies etc but I explicitly named a way that we are certain will work.
Note that if you apply the above links to this task, it means there is a tree of ASI systems, each unable to determine if it is not in fact in a training simulation, and each responsible for only a very narrow part of the effort for keeping a specific individual alive.
In addition to all you’ve said, this line of reasoning ALSO puts an unreasonable degree of expectation on ASI’s potential and makes it into a magical infinite wish-granting genie that would thus be worth any risk to have at our beck and call. And that just doesn’t feel backed by reality to me. ASI would be smarter than us, but even assuming we can keep it aligned (big if), it would still be limited by the physical laws of reality. If some things are impossible, maybe they’re just impossible. It would really suck ass if you risked the whole future lightcone and ended up in that nuclear-blasted world living in a bunker and THEN the ASI when you ask it for immortality laughs in your face and goes “what, you believe in those fairy tales? Everything must die. Not even I can reverse entropy”.
I named a method that is compatible with known medical science and known information, it simply requires more labor and a greater level of skill than humans are currently capable of. Meaning that every step already happens in nature, it is just currently too complex to reproduce.
Here’s an overview:
repairing the brain by adding new cells. Nature builds new brains from scratch with new cells, this step is possible.
Bypassing gaps in the brain despite (1) with neural implants to restore missing connectivity. Has been demonstrated in rat experiments, is possible
Building new organs from de-aged cells lines:
a. Nature creates de aged cell lines with each new embryo
b. Nature creates new organs with each embryonic development
4. Stacking parallel probabilities so that the person’s MTBF is sufficiently long. This exists and is a known technique.
This in no way defeats entropy. Eventually the patient will die, but it is possible to stack probabilities to make their projected lifespan the life of the universe, or on the order of a million years, if you can afford the number of parallel systems required. The system constantly requires energy input and recycling of a lot of equipment.
Obviously a better treatment involves rebuilt bodies etc but I explicitly named a way that we are certain will work.
There is no ‘genie’, no single ASI asked to do any of the above. That’s not how this works. See here for how to subdivide the tasks: https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/5hApNw5f7uG8RXxGS/the-open-agency-model and https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/HByDKLLdaWEcA2QQD/applying-superintelligence-without-collusion for how to prevent the system from deceiving you.
Note that if you apply the above links to this task, it means there is a tree of ASI systems, each unable to determine if it is not in fact in a training simulation, and each responsible for only a very narrow part of the effort for keeping a specific individual alive.