There’s no way for me to upvote the discussion resulting from a comment without upvoting the root comment or the author of that command. Given those two side-effects don’t seem important to me, I’ve opted to upvote comments in which interesting discussions have occurred, though I’m not honestly sure sorting by leading doesn’t already serve that purpose. Honestly, I sort by new. If I’m going to participate, I might as well read all the comments to see if what I want to say had already been said. I have severe doubts that a “karma” system ultimately makes sense for anything other than articles. If titles and feedback meant nothing, we could as well list only the author and karma of articles in the index. We could get rid of date too, for that matter.
Now that I think about it, I can’t remember the names of half the authors who have written posts I’ve updated. I’d like to dream up a system to help me track authors who tend to write comments I personally consider worth reading, but then I’m going to end up reading all the comments if I am to participate, regardless of “quality.”
But then again, as per my comments in A game of angels and devil, maybe I’m focusing on higher-order abstract qualities of discussion when the majority of readers simply need to be beaten into epistemic submission. Am I the only one that had already well-understood, independently formalized, and completely internalized a supermajority of articles on LessWrong prior to even discovering the site? Honestly, I’d like to wait and see, but there’s been plenty of time already. The fix is in for this moment in the system’s evolution: This article was an abysmal failure. I’m about ready to try to collect the names of the individuals worth the effort of continued discussion with and create a safe haven away from the mass all too willing to divide itself out of the picture.
If there already exists such a cabal, it has done an abysmal job of improving matters here. I hope my recognition of the epistemic arrogance of others isn’t itself mistaken for epistemic arrogance, but if such a cabal were at all worthy of being inducted in to, they would already have more than enough epistemic humility to recognize that. I guess the fix is already in on that, too: This entire cluster of organizations and individuals is failing to accomplish its own goals. I can already model the paranoia of any existing cabals here. I guess if I’m the least paranoid among those capable, I really don’t have any solution other than to keep lurking the IRC and grabbing up the individuals that exhibit the readily detectable qualities necessary. Hint hint. Hint. IRC. Hint.
I can’t wait until my cabal has enough members to actively search. ~_~
I managed to bake these thoughts:
There are three things worth upvoting:
Individual comment/points.
Entire articles/discussions/reply chains/topics.
The authors that write #1 to participate in #2.
There’s no way for me to upvote the discussion resulting from a comment without upvoting the root comment or the author of that command. Given those two side-effects don’t seem important to me, I’ve opted to upvote comments in which interesting discussions have occurred, though I’m not honestly sure sorting by leading doesn’t already serve that purpose. Honestly, I sort by new. If I’m going to participate, I might as well read all the comments to see if what I want to say had already been said. I have severe doubts that a “karma” system ultimately makes sense for anything other than articles. If titles and feedback meant nothing, we could as well list only the author and karma of articles in the index. We could get rid of date too, for that matter.
Now that I think about it, I can’t remember the names of half the authors who have written posts I’ve updated. I’d like to dream up a system to help me track authors who tend to write comments I personally consider worth reading, but then I’m going to end up reading all the comments if I am to participate, regardless of “quality.”
But then again, as per my comments in A game of angels and devil, maybe I’m focusing on higher-order abstract qualities of discussion when the majority of readers simply need to be beaten into epistemic submission. Am I the only one that had already well-understood, independently formalized, and completely internalized a supermajority of articles on LessWrong prior to even discovering the site? Honestly, I’d like to wait and see, but there’s been plenty of time already. The fix is in for this moment in the system’s evolution: This article was an abysmal failure. I’m about ready to try to collect the names of the individuals worth the effort of continued discussion with and create a safe haven away from the mass all too willing to divide itself out of the picture.
If there already exists such a cabal, it has done an abysmal job of improving matters here. I hope my recognition of the epistemic arrogance of others isn’t itself mistaken for epistemic arrogance, but if such a cabal were at all worthy of being inducted in to, they would already have more than enough epistemic humility to recognize that. I guess the fix is already in on that, too: This entire cluster of organizations and individuals is failing to accomplish its own goals. I can already model the paranoia of any existing cabals here. I guess if I’m the least paranoid among those capable, I really don’t have any solution other than to keep lurking the IRC and grabbing up the individuals that exhibit the readily detectable qualities necessary. Hint hint. Hint. IRC. Hint.
I can’t wait until my cabal has enough members to actively search. ~_~