I don’t know if I count as part of the “movement”, but I can’t agree on these demands, because they all assume that notions such as “public policy” and “government” are valid and legitimate.
Suppose we were to turn them round and write them as negative demands; 5, 6, and 8 all reduce to freedom of contract. 7 is covered by “no crimes, only torts” since the concept of a “victimless tort” is obviously meaningless. 1 and 2 are fundamentally just questions of governance procedure, and become a lot less odious when you’re not forced to live under / pay for a policy you don’t support chosen by broken systems of governance. 3 and 4 are demands that other people’s money be spent, and allowing such things is a gift to Moloch (see also: Olsonian scramble, rent-seeking); if we rule that out, we’re left with “we want to be able to give our money to $CAUSE instead of having it taxed to fund causes we don’t support” (causes like #7, come to think of it).
So rather than 8 demands, one principle would seem to suffice: “The support of a plurality of irrational humans is no license to trespass upon individual liberties”. Then again, nothing provides such a license; a superintelligent AGI doesn’t have the ethical right to do so either. Both the elected government and the AGI, in practice, have the power to do so (in the former case it’s because most people believe democracy legitimises government and will support it), but if might makes right then we may as well not bother with AI alignment research ;-)
I don’t know if I count as part of the “movement”, but I can’t agree on these demands, because they all assume that notions such as “public policy” and “government” are valid and legitimate.
Suppose we were to turn them round and write them as negative demands; 5, 6, and 8 all reduce to freedom of contract. 7 is covered by “no crimes, only torts” since the concept of a “victimless tort” is obviously meaningless. 1 and 2 are fundamentally just questions of governance procedure, and become a lot less odious when you’re not forced to live under / pay for a policy you don’t support chosen by broken systems of governance. 3 and 4 are demands that other people’s money be spent, and allowing such things is a gift to Moloch (see also: Olsonian scramble, rent-seeking); if we rule that out, we’re left with “we want to be able to give our money to $CAUSE instead of having it taxed to fund causes we don’t support” (causes like #7, come to think of it).
So rather than 8 demands, one principle would seem to suffice: “The support of a plurality of irrational humans is no license to trespass upon individual liberties”. Then again, nothing provides such a license; a superintelligent AGI doesn’t have the ethical right to do so either. Both the elected government and the AGI, in practice, have the power to do so (in the former case it’s because most people believe democracy legitimises government and will support it), but if might makes right then we may as well not bother with AI alignment research ;-)