Yeah… dunno if they’re actually arguing that a First Cause must exist, or simply differentially focusing their attention on how to talk about the FC in cases where we somehow-or-other expect it does exist without spending time examining the “chain of turtles”,.
I don’t know about you, but I’ve mostly been thinking about cases where the universe is somehow infinitely old*, with no temporal “first cause” (and thus no bottom turtle, metaphorically speaking.)
Note that MugaSofer replied to that comment.
Indeed, and I think their line of argument is a reformulated cosmological argument. I’m still thinking on it, though.
Yeah… dunno if they’re actually arguing that a First Cause must exist, or simply differentially focusing their attention on how to talk about the FC in cases where we somehow-or-other expect it does exist without spending time examining the “chain of turtles”,.
I don’t know about you, but I’ve mostly been thinking about cases where the universe is somehow infinitely old*, with no temporal “first cause” (and thus no bottom turtle, metaphorically speaking.)
EDIT: *or in a causal loop.