But the others (like the one named ‘objectification’) is not more about objectifying women than some of the post were about beggars.
Unfortunately, we seem to be coming from quite different places here, so I still don’t understand why you think this. Could you please try to explain? I don’t mean to be belligerent, but from my perspective it seems as though you’re just repeatedly restating your conclusion, when what I need to understand are your reasons for reaching that conclusion.
FWIW, my take on what constitutes “objectification” can be found here: I think it corresponds roughly to treating other people as means to an end, without regard for their interests.* I did not notice anything in the discussion of begging that appeared to do this (though jajvirta raised a legitimate concern). Do you think I’ve missed something in the discussion here?
Or is it rather that you don’t think the behaviour Alicorn originally objected to was objectifying in this sense?
* As noted here I do not think that objectification in this sense is always and everywhere problematic. Whether it is or not also depends on context.
Unfortunately, we seem to be coming from quite different places here, so I still don’t understand why you think this. Could you please try to explain? I don’t mean to be belligerent, but from my perspective it seems as though you’re just repeatedly restating your conclusion, when what I need to understand are your reasons for reaching that conclusion.
FWIW, my take on what constitutes “objectification” can be found here: I think it corresponds roughly to treating other people as means to an end, without regard for their interests.* I did not notice anything in the discussion of begging that appeared to do this (though jajvirta raised a legitimate concern). Do you think I’ve missed something in the discussion here?
Or is it rather that you don’t think the behaviour Alicorn originally objected to was objectifying in this sense?
* As noted here I do not think that objectification in this sense is always and everywhere problematic. Whether it is or not also depends on context.