I came in agreeing with several of the author’s conclusions (many ‘aesthetic’ breeds are animal cruelty, owning a dog as a single person with a full-time job is probably cruel, dogs are a poor substitute for children, etc.), and yet found something about the article highly offputting.
First is that I think “dominance” is the wrong frame, and having the wrong frame often generates lots of “well, I don’t disagree with what you’re saying in any particular sentence, but somehow I disagree with the whole thing.”
I think from the dog-owner’s perspective, the right frame is closer to ‘being needed.’ Think about the greentext about shrimp and this bit of The Bell Curve:
The broadest goal is a society in which people throughout the functional range of intelligence can find, and feel they have found, a valued place for themselves. For “valued place,” we offer a pragmatic definition: You occupy a valued place if other people would miss you if you were gone. The fact that you would be missed means that you were valued. Both the quality and quantity of valued places are important. Most people hope to find a soulmate for life, and that means someone who would “miss you” in the widest and most intense way. The definition captures the reason why children are so important in defining a valued place. But besides the quality of the valuing, quantity too is important. If a single person would miss you and no one else, you have a fragile hold on your place in society, no matter how much that one person cares for you. To have many different people who would miss you, in many different parts of your life and at many levels of intensity, is a hallmark of a person whose place is well and thoroughly valued. One way of thinking about policy options is to ask whether they aid or obstruct this goal of creating valued places.
That said, many of the same complaints apply—why not be needed for something productive, instead of manufacturing something where the need is the feature, instead of the bug? If no one in your life needs you, and you buy/rescue a dog and now one dog needs you, is that an improvement / is that healthy?
I think the answer is “yes,” and thinking about the word “healthy” clarifies why. Suppose someone is writing about food, and points out the ways in which food grown without pesticides is healthier than food grown with pesticides. If you’re worried about second-order effects, of what additional chemicals you’re ingesting, this is right; if you’re worried about first-order effects, of whether or not you’ll be malnourished, this is wrong. (As an important background fact, pesticides increase yields, such that organic farms produce fewer calories per unit of land and effort.)
In general, I try to be allergic to the “everyone should have <luxury version> of <good>” argument, because in fact people are better off living in tenements than living on the street, and if we had more tenements we might have fewer people living on the street, and so banning tenements is probably harmful. Similarly with minimum wage laws, and so on and so on.
Consider this section:
What does it say about a human who enjoys this emotional transaction? It says that on some level they like the idea of having dominance over another being. And, they want that dominance to be a feature of their daily life.
I don’t think there is anything wrong with enjoying dominance, per se. Sexual dominance is clearly a popular tendency, and likewise, the desire to dominate others in competitions is a useful inborn characteristic which incentivizes ambitiousness and effort. I think identifying and pursuing both of those forms of dominance can bring pleasure and satisfaction in a healthy way.
That is, the author isn’t opposed to dominance, or A being better than B. They just think there are good ways to do it and sad ways to do it, and dog ownership is one of the sad ways. If we analogize to video games, they’re claiming that playing competitively is good, and only scrubs play against AI instead of other humans.
There’s a part of this that seems right—people who win at competitive video games are better at gaming than people who can’t win, and people who win competitions / status games are better at competing than people who can’t win those competitions—but also a part that seems mistaken, in that it won’t be the case that everyone can be above average, unless you include competitors that are ‘outside everyone’ while still engaging in the correct way.
And in especially in the context of “minimum wage laws” or “looking down on the worse version of things”, it seems especially cruel to cut off opportunities for people who aren’t very needed / aren’t very respected to get an easy source of need and respect, not because it’s harmful but because it reflects poorly on them for being on the bottom of the pyramid. That is, in an ordered system, someone is going to be on the bottom, and we get to decide whether it’s people or dogs.
[There’s a different argument you can make, where you say the relationship is bad for the other side; I currently think it’s the case that humanity has made a pretty good deal with cows from the cow’s point of view, for example, but don’t think that humanity has made a pretty good deal with chickens from the chicken’s point of view. The author considers this argument but only accepts it in a limited way, in approximately the same way I do, but I think the ‘family dogs’ and ‘lapdogs’ have way more meaning than the author thinks.]
I came in agreeing with several of the author’s conclusions (many ‘aesthetic’ breeds are animal cruelty, owning a dog as a single person with a full-time job is probably cruel, dogs are a poor substitute for children, etc.), and yet found something about the article highly offputting.
First is that I think “dominance” is the wrong frame, and having the wrong frame often generates lots of “well, I don’t disagree with what you’re saying in any particular sentence, but somehow I disagree with the whole thing.”
I think from the dog-owner’s perspective, the right frame is closer to ‘being needed.’ Think about the greentext about shrimp and this bit of The Bell Curve:
That said, many of the same complaints apply—why not be needed for something productive, instead of manufacturing something where the need is the feature, instead of the bug? If no one in your life needs you, and you buy/rescue a dog and now one dog needs you, is that an improvement / is that healthy?
I think the answer is “yes,” and thinking about the word “healthy” clarifies why. Suppose someone is writing about food, and points out the ways in which food grown without pesticides is healthier than food grown with pesticides. If you’re worried about second-order effects, of what additional chemicals you’re ingesting, this is right; if you’re worried about first-order effects, of whether or not you’ll be malnourished, this is wrong. (As an important background fact, pesticides increase yields, such that organic farms produce fewer calories per unit of land and effort.)
In general, I try to be allergic to the “everyone should have <luxury version> of <good>” argument, because in fact people are better off living in tenements than living on the street, and if we had more tenements we might have fewer people living on the street, and so banning tenements is probably harmful. Similarly with minimum wage laws, and so on and so on.
Consider this section:
That is, the author isn’t opposed to dominance, or A being better than B. They just think there are good ways to do it and sad ways to do it, and dog ownership is one of the sad ways. If we analogize to video games, they’re claiming that playing competitively is good, and only scrubs play against AI instead of other humans.
There’s a part of this that seems right—people who win at competitive video games are better at gaming than people who can’t win, and people who win competitions / status games are better at competing than people who can’t win those competitions—but also a part that seems mistaken, in that it won’t be the case that everyone can be above average, unless you include competitors that are ‘outside everyone’ while still engaging in the correct way.
And in especially in the context of “minimum wage laws” or “looking down on the worse version of things”, it seems especially cruel to cut off opportunities for people who aren’t very needed / aren’t very respected to get an easy source of need and respect, not because it’s harmful but because it reflects poorly on them for being on the bottom of the pyramid. That is, in an ordered system, someone is going to be on the bottom, and we get to decide whether it’s people or dogs.
[There’s a different argument you can make, where you say the relationship is bad for the other side; I currently think it’s the case that humanity has made a pretty good deal with cows from the cow’s point of view, for example, but don’t think that humanity has made a pretty good deal with chickens from the chicken’s point of view. The author considers this argument but only accepts it in a limited way, in approximately the same way I do, but I think the ‘family dogs’ and ‘lapdogs’ have way more meaning than the author thinks.]