Actually, upon second thought I think squidious (and I guess I) are probably using a looser definition than the wikipedia article. “Effortful attention to your own emotions and the emotions of others” is maybe a more accurate description.
Various past conversations with you + this one suggest that you have a pretty different experience of how various interpersonal stuff works, which hasn’t seemed true for me or most people I talk to, as well as a disinterest in the possibility that other people have a different perspective and that what works for you doesn’t work for others.
Which is fine, but makes me skeptical that discussing this much further is especially useful.
I am more aware of my surroundings and emotions and the emotions of others both because I spent effort in the past training skills and because I spend effort in the present that takes nonzero energy to maintain. This seems true for most people, and people seem to vary in how much effort it takes. This seems important to understand and factor into what you expect people to do without being incentivized to do it. You can call it whatever you want.
I’m just reading “Who’s Got Your Back?” Keith Ferrazzi which is a book about how to build deep friendships that help you to grow.
I don’t think the mindset of “Person A does emotional labor for person B” is anywhere in the book. The book rather promotes the mindset: “If person A is open to give and welcoming of accepting generosity from B that’s really great for both of them”.
I am more aware of my surroundings and emotions and the emotions of others both because I spent effort in the past training skills and because I spend effort in the present that takes nonzero energy to maintain.
I do have a well-trained ability to perceive the state of other people.
For myself. it doesn’t cost any energy to be in touch on the emotional level. It rather gives me energy.
Even though I do have a history of being more introverted I ask myself whether this might be the dynamic people mean when they say: “Extroverts recharge through being with other people while introverts recharge through being alone?”
you have a pretty different experience of how various interpersonal stuff works
Probably true. People are different.
a disinterest in the possibility that other people have a different perspective
Quite untrue, which is demonstrated by the fact that we are having this conversation.
In any case, I think that expressing “Being actively helpful leads to doing more work” as “emotional labor … makes the work ethic possible” is a pretty awful way of putting it.
Actually, upon second thought I think squidious (and I guess I) are probably using a looser definition than the wikipedia article. “Effortful attention to your own emotions and the emotions of others” is maybe a more accurate description.
That’s not labour. That’s just being aware of yourself and others.
Various past conversations with you + this one suggest that you have a pretty different experience of how various interpersonal stuff works, which hasn’t seemed true for me or most people I talk to, as well as a disinterest in the possibility that other people have a different perspective and that what works for you doesn’t work for others.
Which is fine, but makes me skeptical that discussing this much further is especially useful.
I am more aware of my surroundings and emotions and the emotions of others both because I spent effort in the past training skills and because I spend effort in the present that takes nonzero energy to maintain. This seems true for most people, and people seem to vary in how much effort it takes. This seems important to understand and factor into what you expect people to do without being incentivized to do it. You can call it whatever you want.
I’m just reading “Who’s Got Your Back?” Keith Ferrazzi which is a book about how to build deep friendships that help you to grow.
I don’t think the mindset of “Person A does emotional labor for person B” is anywhere in the book. The book rather promotes the mindset: “If person A is open to give and welcoming of accepting generosity from B that’s really great for both of them”.
I do have a well-trained ability to perceive the state of other people. For myself. it doesn’t cost any energy to be in touch on the emotional level. It rather gives me energy.
Even though I do have a history of being more introverted I ask myself whether this might be the dynamic people mean when they say: “Extroverts recharge through being with other people while introverts recharge through being alone?”
Probably true. People are different.
Quite untrue, which is demonstrated by the fact that we are having this conversation.
In any case, I think that expressing “Being actively helpful leads to doing more work” as “emotional labor … makes the work ethic possible” is a pretty awful way of putting it.