Thanks for taking the time to register specific disagreement!
My reactions to this small sampling of your standards:
I think that 1 is quite important, and valuable, but subordinate to the above in the context of discourse specifically trying to be rational (so we do have disagreement but probably less than you would expect).
I think that characterizing this stuff as “going through the motions” is a key and important mistake; this is analogous to people finding language requests tedious and onerous specifically because they’re thinking in one way and feel like they’re being asked to uselessly and effortfully apply a cosmetic translation filter; I think that applying cosmetic translation filters is usually bad.
I just straightforwardly agree with you on 3, and I don’t think 3 is actually in conflict with any of the things in the post.
4 is the place where I feel closest to “Maybe this should supplant something in the list.” It feels to me like my post is about very basic kicks and blocks and punches, and 4 is about “why do we practice martial arts?” and it’s plausible that those should go in the other order.
5 feels to me as if it’s pretty clearly endorsed by the post, with the caveat that being daringly fallacious and dramatic works in my culture when signposted (which, as Ray points out under Logan’s thread, does not have to be explicit).
6 seems to be more like a … mood? … rather than a standard; it feels different from the other elements of your list. I am for sure kakistocurious, though probably less than you by a good bit if you consider it central to your personality.
Thanks for taking the time to register specific disagreement!
My reactions to this small sampling of your standards:
I think that 1 is quite important, and valuable, but subordinate to the above in the context of discourse specifically trying to be rational (so we do have disagreement but probably less than you would expect).
I think that characterizing this stuff as “going through the motions” is a key and important mistake; this is analogous to people finding language requests tedious and onerous specifically because they’re thinking in one way and feel like they’re being asked to uselessly and effortfully apply a cosmetic translation filter; I think that applying cosmetic translation filters is usually bad.
I just straightforwardly agree with you on 3, and I don’t think 3 is actually in conflict with any of the things in the post.
4 is the place where I feel closest to “Maybe this should supplant something in the list.” It feels to me like my post is about very basic kicks and blocks and punches, and 4 is about “why do we practice martial arts?” and it’s plausible that those should go in the other order.
5 feels to me as if it’s pretty clearly endorsed by the post, with the caveat that being daringly fallacious and dramatic works in my culture when signposted (which, as Ray points out under Logan’s thread, does not have to be explicit).
6 seems to be more like a … mood? … rather than a standard; it feels different from the other elements of your list. I am for sure kakistocurious, though probably less than you by a good bit if you consider it central to your personality.