You seem to argue that the majority of teenagers would act in the way you suggest if it were a natural part of the culture they were brought up in. I agree.
However, I don’t think we have evidence to believe that British wizarding culture is such. And even if it were, this would not account for why Muggleborn students (including pet cat owner Hermione) act no differently to their pureblood counterparts.
[...] if it were a natural part of the culture they were brought up in. [...] However, I don’t think we have evidence to believe that British wizarding culture is such.
They routinely have children kill (vanish) animals in class to learn a spell. Their parents presumably did the same when they were in school. Isn’t this pretty much the definition of it being a natural part of the culture?
As for Hermione, I agree with the interpretation “Rowling is a bad writer” over “she is making a subtle point here”.
Circular argument, I think. “It’s presently OK to kill animals in class, therefore it must have been the same in the past, therefore it must be part of the culture, therefore it’s presently OK to kill animals in class”.
Read “is OK to …” to mean a cultural norm, not a judgement made by my or yours real values.
My argument is then: It’s presently OK (in their culture); therefore (all else being equal) it’s likely to have been OK in the recent past, and is not a recent innovation; therefore it matches the definition for being a part of their culture.
The last link to “therefore it’s OK” that you propose is simply not necessary, I have already reached my conclusion.
Now if you read “it’s OK” as meaning I, User:DanArmak, think it’s OK for wizards to kill kittens, that would be a circular argument, and also a wrong one (because I don’t think so). But that’s not what I was saying.
You seem to argue that the majority of teenagers would act in the way you suggest if it were a natural part of the culture they were brought up in. I agree.
However, I don’t think we have evidence to believe that British wizarding culture is such. And even if it were, this would not account for why Muggleborn students (including pet cat owner Hermione) act no differently to their pureblood counterparts.
They routinely have children kill (vanish) animals in class to learn a spell. Their parents presumably did the same when they were in school. Isn’t this pretty much the definition of it being a natural part of the culture?
As for Hermione, I agree with the interpretation “Rowling is a bad writer” over “she is making a subtle point here”.
Circular argument, I think. “It’s presently OK to kill animals in class, therefore it must have been the same in the past, therefore it must be part of the culture, therefore it’s presently OK to kill animals in class”.
Read “is OK to …” to mean a cultural norm, not a judgement made by my or yours real values.
My argument is then: It’s presently OK (in their culture); therefore (all else being equal) it’s likely to have been OK in the recent past, and is not a recent innovation; therefore it matches the definition for being a part of their culture.
The last link to “therefore it’s OK” that you propose is simply not necessary, I have already reached my conclusion.
Now if you read “it’s OK” as meaning I, User:DanArmak, think it’s OK for wizards to kill kittens, that would be a circular argument, and also a wrong one (because I don’t think so). But that’s not what I was saying.