Humans are not neccesary for work but we still command enourmous economic power. It’s not like we are going to be poor. So we might have something like 1 working day and 6 days off in a week.
In the video wasn’t it a happy ending for the horses? Majority of horses are in a life-long pension. I we can get stuff without working, why insist to work?
Unless those robots will belong to you, or the money from the owners of the robots will somehow get to you (e.g. taxation and basic income), you are going to be poor when you are no longer able to compete with the robots.
By the way, there will also be a robotic police and army, able to protect the system regardless of how dissatisfied how many humans become.
Okay answers the question. So while we as a society can be rich and “in average” would be better off, the distribution of wealth can still be problematic. It would still not seem to be about computers per se. But it would seem that computers would build up pressure to solve it.
What I find different in this case compared to hard-mode multiple times rediscussed topic on different economic structures for different sections of the population is that computers can potentially operate unmanned. Thus there is no economic necessity to enter into arrangement for the side that has the latest tech and the larger population. Thus a whole lot of humans do not participate. This might mean that instead of suppression, exclusion and isolation would be employed by the robotic police. The haves and have-nots would form separate cities that would not trade with each other (but would probably trade within themselfs and the same kind). While haves would like to have markets for their products the have-nots don’t have anything worthwhile to offer back (as even total economic submission: slavery would not be enough). Not an especially happy outcome, but the standard of living in the have-not side need not be lower than what we currently have (even if the advancement of it would be frozen).
One day the robot owners may decide they want to take the land of the non-owners, or polute the air or water… and there is no economical pressure to stop them.
As in the debates about AI, malice is not required here, only indifference.
It strikes me that this might already be happening to an extent in the form of getting favourable access to natural resources. Also within the countries that get their income mostly from exporting natural resources the living standard of people irrelevant to the value extraction process doesn’t develop. Thus you have oil sheiks in a country riddled with poverty.
I have trouble understanding what is the problem.
Humans are not neccesary for work but we still command enourmous economic power. It’s not like we are going to be poor. So we might have something like 1 working day and 6 days off in a week.
In the video wasn’t it a happy ending for the horses? Majority of horses are in a life-long pension. I we can get stuff without working, why insist to work?
Unless those robots will belong to you, or the money from the owners of the robots will somehow get to you (e.g. taxation and basic income), you are going to be poor when you are no longer able to compete with the robots.
By the way, there will also be a robotic police and army, able to protect the system regardless of how dissatisfied how many humans become.
Okay answers the question. So while we as a society can be rich and “in average” would be better off, the distribution of wealth can still be problematic. It would still not seem to be about computers per se. But it would seem that computers would build up pressure to solve it.
What I find different in this case compared to hard-mode multiple times rediscussed topic on different economic structures for different sections of the population is that computers can potentially operate unmanned. Thus there is no economic necessity to enter into arrangement for the side that has the latest tech and the larger population. Thus a whole lot of humans do not participate. This might mean that instead of suppression, exclusion and isolation would be employed by the robotic police. The haves and have-nots would form separate cities that would not trade with each other (but would probably trade within themselfs and the same kind). While haves would like to have markets for their products the have-nots don’t have anything worthwhile to offer back (as even total economic submission: slavery would not be enough). Not an especially happy outcome, but the standard of living in the have-not side need not be lower than what we currently have (even if the advancement of it would be frozen).
One day the robot owners may decide they want to take the land of the non-owners, or polute the air or water… and there is no economical pressure to stop them.
As in the debates about AI, malice is not required here, only indifference.
It strikes me that this might already be happening to an extent in the form of getting favourable access to natural resources. Also within the countries that get their income mostly from exporting natural resources the living standard of people irrelevant to the value extraction process doesn’t develop. Thus you have oil sheiks in a country riddled with poverty.
If the politics shakes out well, yes. If it shakes out badly...