I agree with the idea that individual rationality is useful. I’m here primarily because I think it’ll do me good to learn those tricks and methods.
But I think you missed the point in Robin’s post. And when I see people’s talk about the martial art of rationality, I think it’s fine as that may help them put more energy into learning it, as in, making something funnier and perhaps, more “cool-sounding”, putting some healthy feelings and drive in it. But that’s just supposed to be a metaphor, as well as a loose comparison, at best. We won’t carbon copy it, right ? I’d guess everyone here knows that, but sometimes I have that faintest flicker of doubts...
I get that feeling that some people are genuinely thinking about copying martial art schools patterns as is; also copying some of the cached sentences and ideas they think they read in preceding posts, about martial arts, and are going in a sort of affective death spiral about how cool that sounds.
Dunno, it’s more of an impression, so I’ll leave it at that. But I thought it was worth noticing.
As to the point of Robin’s post, it’s not so dissimilar to Eliezer’s posts, about how we could learn or developp efficient, rational ways of working as a group. Not just individual, 1337 martial art rationality, but also group rationality.
You can be especially good at something alone, but suck at working in a group. And, so far, for human beings, the average efficiency of a group member is higher than the average efficiency of a loner, for most tasks.
I agree with the idea that individual rationality is useful. I’m here primarily because I think it’ll do me good to learn those tricks and methods.
But I think you missed the point in Robin’s post. And when I see people’s talk about the martial art of rationality, I think it’s fine as that may help them put more energy into learning it, as in, making something funnier and perhaps, more “cool-sounding”, putting some healthy feelings and drive in it. But that’s just supposed to be a metaphor, as well as a loose comparison, at best. We won’t carbon copy it, right ? I’d guess everyone here knows that, but sometimes I have that faintest flicker of doubts...
I get that feeling that some people are genuinely thinking about copying martial art schools patterns as is; also copying some of the cached sentences and ideas they think they read in preceding posts, about martial arts, and are going in a sort of affective death spiral about how cool that sounds.
Dunno, it’s more of an impression, so I’ll leave it at that. But I thought it was worth noticing.
As to the point of Robin’s post, it’s not so dissimilar to Eliezer’s posts, about how we could learn or developp efficient, rational ways of working as a group. Not just individual, 1337 martial art rationality, but also group rationality.
You can be especially good at something alone, but suck at working in a group. And, so far, for human beings, the average efficiency of a group member is higher than the average efficiency of a loner, for most tasks.