I’m not sure I like it. It looks like a lot of talking past each other. Very casually informative of different perspectives without much direct confrontation. Relatively good for an internet argument, but still not as productive as one might hope for between experts debating a serious topic. I’m glad for the information; I strongly value concretely knowing that sometimes arguments play out like this.
But I still don’t like it.
(To be fair, this is comments on a facebook link post. I feel Ben misleads with technical truths when he describes this as an “actual debate” occurring in “a public space”.)
Re the last line, it’s public insofar as anyone can read it (you don’t have to be friends with Yann LeCun to read it, you can read it logged out). Saying “actual debate” was intended somewhat as praise for the people involved having the conversation. I agree it was something like the mvp of a debate, but I think it is the first time I’ve ever seen these people really have this conversation, and the first sample gives the most information.
Can’t imagine this post going in the book, but if people vote it in I’ll make some effort to track down the participants and ask if they’re willing to give legal permission for inclusion.
A good example of crucial arguments, in the wild.
I’m not sure I like it. It looks like a lot of talking past each other. Very casually informative of different perspectives without much direct confrontation. Relatively good for an internet argument, but still not as productive as one might hope for between experts debating a serious topic. I’m glad for the information; I strongly value concretely knowing that sometimes arguments play out like this.
But I still don’t like it.
(To be fair, this is comments on a facebook link post. I feel Ben misleads with technical truths when he describes this as an “actual debate” occurring in “a public space”.)
Re the last line, it’s public insofar as anyone can read it (you don’t have to be friends with Yann LeCun to read it, you can read it logged out). Saying “actual debate” was intended somewhat as praise for the people involved having the conversation. I agree it was something like the mvp of a debate, but I think it is the first time I’ve ever seen these people really have this conversation, and the first sample gives the most information.
Can’t imagine this post going in the book, but if people vote it in I’ll make some effort to track down the participants and ask if they’re willing to give legal permission for inclusion.