I appreciate your efforts to decode this ‘Olympus mentality’ nonsense, and in general to make sure you’re not making communication errors. But at this point I believe you’re just wasting your time. You’ve documented your research methods better than I’ve ever seen someone do, and they certainly don’t need defending here.
On behalf of those who believe your work can positively impact the future of humanity and your time can be better spent elsewhere, I humbly request that you please file what you’ve been responding to under ‘trolling’ and move on.
I agree. This makes a perfect end point to the discussion, and unless anything actually relevant comes up, not reiteration of the same points, ignoring their previous refutations, you should stop it here.
What about the part where you ignored the things you were asking for, and kept pressing on slightly-modified issues?
Different topic. I’m being called a troll because Luke made implausible excuses, I’m calling him on it, he’s digging himself deeper, and yet people are voting him up instead of me. (And this wasn’t his first implausible one: remember the “we don’t have time”/”we can’t give that out” flip-flop?)
In any case, I’m not “pressing on slightly-modified issues”, nor ignoring anything (unless someone else replied as I would have). I listed my criteria way back when; that’s not answered, and there’s every reason to believe they have that information.
Silas, frankly, this could have been executed much more diplomatically.
Sure, if the voting pattern is to be believed, I should just make up implausible stories, and then call people trolls if they ever call me on it. What exactly should I have done differently? Write out what my comments should have looked like.
I don’t think what you’re doing is trolling, but I have a fairly tight definition for trolling—I think of it as posting driven by abstract malice, a desire to cause pain which is divorced from the topic at hand. That clearly isn’t you.
On the other hand, I think you’re engaged in a bad emotional habit—attributing a negative motivation to someone else on very little evidence, and getting stuck on the idea of that motivation.
Luke,
I appreciate your efforts to decode this ‘Olympus mentality’ nonsense, and in general to make sure you’re not making communication errors. But at this point I believe you’re just wasting your time. You’ve documented your research methods better than I’ve ever seen someone do, and they certainly don’t need defending here.
On behalf of those who believe your work can positively impact the future of humanity and your time can be better spent elsewhere, I humbly request that you please file what you’ve been responding to under ‘trolling’ and move on.
I agree. This makes a perfect end point to the discussion, and unless anything actually relevant comes up, not reiteration of the same points, ignoring their previous refutations, you should stop it here.
To me, your comments here look like trolling, but I guess YMMV.
Calling someone on phony excuses is “trolling”? (That’s the only reason the recent thread has stretched out so far.)
Next time, I guess I should shut up when Luke makes an(other) implausible claim?
What about the part where you ignored the things you were asking for, and kept pressing on slightly-modified issues?
I’d call that trolling, along with the tone of some of your comments.. Silas, frankly, this could have been executed much more diplomatically.
Different topic. I’m being called a troll because Luke made implausible excuses, I’m calling him on it, he’s digging himself deeper, and yet people are voting him up instead of me. (And this wasn’t his first implausible one: remember the “we don’t have time”/”we can’t give that out” flip-flop?)
In any case, I’m not “pressing on slightly-modified issues”, nor ignoring anything (unless someone else replied as I would have). I listed my criteria way back when; that’s not answered, and there’s every reason to believe they have that information.
Sure, if the voting pattern is to be believed, I should just make up implausible stories, and then call people trolls if they ever call me on it. What exactly should I have done differently? Write out what my comments should have looked like.
I don’t think what you’re doing is trolling, but I have a fairly tight definition for trolling—I think of it as posting driven by abstract malice, a desire to cause pain which is divorced from the topic at hand. That clearly isn’t you.
On the other hand, I think you’re engaged in a bad emotional habit—attributing a negative motivation to someone else on very little evidence, and getting stuck on the idea of that motivation.