Not sure why this post has been downvoted so much. I had upvoted it from 6 to 9, and now it’s at −5. I don’t see any new strong criticisms of it posted since that time, so what gives? ETA: I just did a strong upvote to bring the karma into positive territory, otherwise nobody can see my question under “Recent Discussion”.
I didn’t downvote, but I do think that conversations like this attract people who aren’t interested in arguing in good faith. I prefer that such discussions occur at one abstraction level up so that they don’t need to mention any object level beliefs like social justice in order to talk about the pattern that the author wants to talk about.
I didn’t downvote, but I do think that conversations like this attract people who aren’t interested in arguing in good faith.
This seems like a reasonable worry. Maybe one way to address it would be to make posts tagged as “politics” (by either the author or a moderator) visible only to logged in users above a certain karma threshold or specifically approved by moderators. Talking at the meta-level is also good, but I think at some point x-risk people have to start discussing object-level politics and we need some place to practice that.
Not sure why this post has been downvoted so much. I had upvoted it from 6 to 9, and now it’s at −5. I don’t see any new strong criticisms of it posted since that time, so what gives? ETA: I just did a strong upvote to bring the karma into positive territory, otherwise nobody can see my question under “Recent Discussion”.
I think it’s fine as a post, but I’d very much prefer not to have explicitly political (and especially explicitly culture-war) posts here
I didn’t downvote, but I do think that conversations like this attract people who aren’t interested in arguing in good faith. I prefer that such discussions occur at one abstraction level up so that they don’t need to mention any object level beliefs like social justice in order to talk about the pattern that the author wants to talk about.
This seems like a reasonable worry. Maybe one way to address it would be to make posts tagged as “politics” (by either the author or a moderator) visible only to logged in users above a certain karma threshold or specifically approved by moderators. Talking at the meta-level is also good, but I think at some point x-risk people have to start discussing object-level politics and we need some place to practice that.