I don’t think there’s a way to get a representative sample of healthy people (vegan or omnivore) without paying them. People just don’t care about the information enough.
One thing I have toyed with is comparing [% of omnivores with fatigue who have nutritional issues] with [% of vegans with fatigue who have nutritional issues]. My theory is if all other sources of fatigue strike each group equally often, and vegans are more prone to nutrition-caused fatigue, vegans with fatigue should have a higher % of nutritional issues than omnivores with fatigue. And both groups are more motivated to get tested than unfatigued people.
And then you try to control for effort and supplements, but I found getting that information from people to be a real uphill struggle and am probably not willing to run another project myself unless I have enough money to pay participants. I worry I’m being too discouraging, I want you to run this, I think it would be valuable even in a limited form and if you can get the data I couldn’t that’s fantastic. But I also don’t want to set you up for failure by being unrealistic about the amount of effort required.
Let’s not jump the gun, I’ll look deeper into it once I am certain there is huge interest.
tbh the main thing I care about is whether those who self-designated as vegans are significantly more likely to be deficient compared to baseline and whether supplement help. Everything else is extra.
Lightspeed grants were just announced, with a July 6th deadline. They are unusually promising as a source of funding, so it might be worth your while to meet that deadline.
jinx, I have applied already, not sure if I did a good job selling it though. Thanks for reminding me though.
still waiting on whether my hospital would be interested in the study.
so far community members I have spoken to said “others” should be interested, but few actually gave me a commitment, I am not pushing very hard though.
so update, after consultation with a research doctor turn out I am not qualified to do it. I need to be either a doctor, a higher ranking nurse or a nurse on research track at least. since I am a nurse on the clinical track so I am not qualified to do the research, bummer.
people could still go to their doctor, get their blood check and give the result to me to tabulate, but it does not require me in particular.
I don’t think there’s a way to get a representative sample of healthy people (vegan or omnivore) without paying them. People just don’t care about the information enough.
One thing I have toyed with is comparing [% of omnivores with fatigue who have nutritional issues] with [% of vegans with fatigue who have nutritional issues]. My theory is if all other sources of fatigue strike each group equally often, and vegans are more prone to nutrition-caused fatigue, vegans with fatigue should have a higher % of nutritional issues than omnivores with fatigue. And both groups are more motivated to get tested than unfatigued people.
And then you try to control for effort and supplements, but I found getting that information from people to be a real uphill struggle and am probably not willing to run another project myself unless I have enough money to pay participants. I worry I’m being too discouraging, I want you to run this, I think it would be valuable even in a limited form and if you can get the data I couldn’t that’s fantastic. But I also don’t want to set you up for failure by being unrealistic about the amount of effort required.
Let’s not jump the gun, I’ll look deeper into it once I am certain there is huge interest.
tbh the main thing I care about is whether those who self-designated as vegans are significantly more likely to be deficient compared to baseline and whether supplement help. Everything else is extra.
Lightspeed grants were just announced, with a July 6th deadline. They are unusually promising as a source of funding, so it might be worth your while to meet that deadline.
jinx, I have applied already, not sure if I did a good job selling it though. Thanks for reminding me though.
still waiting on whether my hospital would be interested in the study.
so far community members I have spoken to said “others” should be interested, but few actually gave me a commitment, I am not pushing very hard though.
Try iollo blood tests too, they’re new and can test hidden deficiencies
Looking at the list, I don’t see any vitamins or minerals listed. It tests a variety of markers, but not raw micronutrients.
so update, after consultation with a research doctor turn out I am not qualified to do it.
I need to be either a doctor, a higher ranking nurse or a nurse on research track at least.
since I am a nurse on the clinical track so I am not qualified to do the research, bummer.
people could still go to their doctor, get their blood check and give the result to me to tabulate, but it does not require me in particular.