Surely the tactic as far as it’s described above is not (yet) any such thing. He could be trying to get you drunk so he can sell you an encyclopedia set, for all you know.
When the situation gets out of the grey area that’s just regular old sexual interference/assault. Attempted rape means nothing at all actually happened, which is why it is not often successfully convicted. But if you stood up in a court of law in my area and said, “My Lord, I was trying to sell her an encyclopedia set,” the judge would say, “Sure, and I was born yesterday.”
I should clarify that when I said it would hold up in court I meant that the charge would be valid. Given the number of committed rapes that are successfully convicted (about 1 in 16), I would have to have pretty solid evidence of the guy’s intent in order to have him convicted. But by the time I got the case to court, the guy’s reputation could be fairly effectively smeared. Which is why it’s important that people know that in many places having sex with drunk people is legally rape, and they should find out which places those are before they follow that advice.
Given the number of committed rapes that are successfully convicted (about 1 in 16)
Citation?
Aren’t those the odds that assumes that whenever a rape is reported and no one goes to jail, this means a rapist wasn’t successfully convicted and punished for his crime? Meaning that whenever someone is suspected of a rape they should have been found guilty. Kinda at odds with not just having a good map of reality but, the foundation of most modern Western legal systems (actually it dosen’t even work with guilty until proven innocent which is another common way things can be set up).
A casual google seems to indicate that this is indeed so
Surely the tactic as far as it’s described above is not (yet) any such thing. He could be trying to get you drunk so he can sell you an encyclopedia set, for all you know.
When the situation gets out of the grey area that’s just regular old sexual interference/assault. Attempted rape means nothing at all actually happened, which is why it is not often successfully convicted. But if you stood up in a court of law in my area and said, “My Lord, I was trying to sell her an encyclopedia set,” the judge would say, “Sure, and I was born yesterday.”
I should clarify that when I said it would hold up in court I meant that the charge would be valid. Given the number of committed rapes that are successfully convicted (about 1 in 16), I would have to have pretty solid evidence of the guy’s intent in order to have him convicted. But by the time I got the case to court, the guy’s reputation could be fairly effectively smeared. Which is why it’s important that people know that in many places having sex with drunk people is legally rape, and they should find out which places those are before they follow that advice.
Citation?
Aren’t those the odds that assumes that whenever a rape is reported and no one goes to jail, this means a rapist wasn’t successfully convicted and punished for his crime? Meaning that whenever someone is suspected of a rape they should have been found guilty. Kinda at odds with not just having a good map of reality but, the foundation of most modern Western legal systems (actually it dosen’t even work with guilty until proven innocent which is another common way things can be set up).
A casual google seems to indicate that this is indeed so
One of several sources:
Not all rapes that occurred are reported, not all that are reported occurred.
Which of these numbers do you think is larger, and why?