Ok, but I don’t see how that is responsive to my point. Which was that you really ought to determine whether something is innate or learned before you begin generating hypotheses as to just how it became innate. That is, determine the proximate cause first, then go to work on other kinds of causation.
ETA: Btw, it is “group selection”, not “group evolution”.
ETA#2: Ah, if you didn’t realize that the ‘party’ in question is the nature/nurture debate, then you would think that you were being responsive. Kindly ignore the snarkiness.
Btw, it is “group selection”, not “group evolution”.
I had assumed that I made a slip of the fingers but looking back I don’t seem to have used that phrase at all. Was that me or someone else you were referring to?
in the first context it was ‘group selection’ that the researches intended to facilitate but not what actually occurred. The resulting outcome was instead individual selection being the dominant factor in how the groups evolved. This is to say that ‘group’ and ‘evolution’ are used correctly as independent terms, not as a phrase referring to a single construct.
The latter two should be ‘group selection’ so I corrected my follow up there, and the Matt quote with suitable edit-brackets to maintain the consistency in reply.
Ok, but I don’t see how that is responsive to my point. Which was that you really ought to determine whether something is innate or learned before you begin generating hypotheses as to just how it became innate. That is, determine the proximate cause first, then go to work on other kinds of causation.
ETA: Btw, it is “group selection”, not “group evolution”.
ETA#2: Ah, if you didn’t realize that the ‘party’ in question is the nature/nurture debate, then you would think that you were being responsive. Kindly ignore the snarkiness.
I had assumed that I made a slip of the fingers but looking back I don’t seem to have used that phrase at all. Was that me or someone else you were referring to?
It was you and then Matt_Simpson and then you again. But it seems to have died out now.
Ahh, I see.
in the first context it was ‘group selection’ that the researches intended to facilitate but not what actually occurred. The resulting outcome was instead individual selection being the dominant factor in how the groups evolved. This is to say that ‘group’ and ‘evolution’ are used correctly as independent terms, not as a phrase referring to a single construct.
The latter two should be ‘group selection’ so I corrected my follow up there, and the Matt quote with suitable edit-brackets to maintain the consistency in reply.