If you say anything critical the gang comes and calls you a troll and what not.
What you said here self-described you as a troll, especially the following sentences: ”I don’t really care too much about most issues but write as if I do, to evoke feedback. I just do it for fun.” ″I sometimes take different positions just to explore an argument, because it is fun to discuss and because I am curious what reactions I might provoke.”
Writing just to provoke responses for the lolz, is pretty much what Internet labels “trolling”. What is there left to argue? You’ve admitted to being what we summarize by the word “troll”, at least some of the time.
I for one, can no longer trust that anything you say is sincere or that you even care about it one way or another. I start with assumptions of honesty from other participants, but when such trust is violated, you can’t easily regain it.
I for one, can no longer trust that anything you say is sincere or that you even care about it one way or another.
You are making no sense. The only reason that you know that I value discussions apart from the subject of the discussion is that I told you, that I have been sincere.
If your definition of a troll is someone who likes to argue with people then I am proud to be a troll.
If you are not emotionally attached to a position, or act as if you do, then it is hard for other people to take your seriously.
If a position is right, I desire to believe that position is right. If a position is wrong, I desire to believe that position is wrong.
Way I see it, that’s all the emotional attachment I need—and indeed, since adopting this stance I have found myself being wrong less often and switching from being wrong to being right more quickly than I did prior to adopting this stance. Indeed, I find that emotional attachment to factual positions is almost the epitome of irrationality.
In case you haven’t read it, the post that inspired this comment can be found here.
The only reason that you know that I value discussions apart from the subject of the discussion is that I told you, that I have been sincere.
The issue isn’t your “values” , the issue is that you admitted that you write as if you care about issues you don’t care about, and that you take positions that you don’t actually hold just to provoke responses.
If you’re sincere in this, then you’ve admitted to insincerity and dishonesty in other times.
If you’re not sincere in this, I can’t trust you anyway.
If your definition of a troll is someone who likes to argue with people
I don’t care what you like or dislike, this is about your actions not about your likings.
If you are not emotionally attached to a position, or act as if you do, then it is hard for other people to take your seriously.
I’ve loved LessWrong because it’s one of the few forums I’ve seen where it’s okay to NOT be attached to positions, where it’s actually okay to try to reason properly,
You’ve acted in such a manner that it makes this community a little bit more like every sewage pile in the web. A troll who doesn’t care about what they say, they just like to argue and evoke responses.
How’s this for an emotional position, since you value emotional responses so much: I despise you and your entire kind. I hope you go away. I hope your kind become EXTINCT from the face of the earth, Dishonesty is among the top sins for me.
I’m sure there’s lots of valid criticism of the community, but I’ll hear it from those people who’re committed to honesty. The dishonest and insincere can fuck off.
What you said here self-described you as a troll, especially the following sentences:
”I don’t really care too much about most issues but write as if I do, to evoke feedback. I just do it for fun.”
″I sometimes take different positions just to explore an argument, because it is fun to discuss and because I am curious what reactions I might provoke.”
Writing just to provoke responses for the lolz, is pretty much what Internet labels “trolling”. What is there left to argue? You’ve admitted to being what we summarize by the word “troll”, at least some of the time.
I for one, can no longer trust that anything you say is sincere or that you even care about it one way or another. I start with assumptions of honesty from other participants, but when such trust is violated, you can’t easily regain it.
You are making no sense. The only reason that you know that I value discussions apart from the subject of the discussion is that I told you, that I have been sincere.
If your definition of a troll is someone who likes to argue with people then I am proud to be a troll.
If you are not emotionally attached to a position, or act as if you do, then it is hard for other people to take your seriously.
If a position is right, I desire to believe that position is right. If a position is wrong, I desire to believe that position is wrong.
Way I see it, that’s all the emotional attachment I need—and indeed, since adopting this stance I have found myself being wrong less often and switching from being wrong to being right more quickly than I did prior to adopting this stance. Indeed, I find that emotional attachment to factual positions is almost the epitome of irrationality.
In case you haven’t read it, the post that inspired this comment can be found here.
The issue isn’t your “values” , the issue is that you admitted that you write as if you care about issues you don’t care about, and that you take positions that you don’t actually hold just to provoke responses.
If you’re sincere in this, then you’ve admitted to insincerity and dishonesty in other times. If you’re not sincere in this, I can’t trust you anyway.
I don’t care what you like or dislike, this is about your actions not about your likings.
I’ve loved LessWrong because it’s one of the few forums I’ve seen where it’s okay to NOT be attached to positions, where it’s actually okay to try to reason properly,
You’ve acted in such a manner that it makes this community a little bit more like every sewage pile in the web. A troll who doesn’t care about what they say, they just like to argue and evoke responses.
How’s this for an emotional position, since you value emotional responses so much: I despise you and your entire kind. I hope you go away. I hope your kind become EXTINCT from the face of the earth, Dishonesty is among the top sins for me.
I’m sure there’s lots of valid criticism of the community, but I’ll hear it from those people who’re committed to honesty. The dishonest and insincere can fuck off.