“Upvote and downvote based on whether or not you find an argument convincing in the context in which it was raised. This means if it’s a good argument against the argument it is responding to, not whether or not there’s a good/obvious counterargument to it; if you have a good counterargument, raise it.”
It can’t be a good counterargument if there’s a good obvious counterargument to it. obvious but not good is fine, good but not obvious might be/is sorta fine but not both. You could well have meant either, as a forward slash tends to mean or, but I and/or is also pretty common. Good argument shouldn’t mean “momentarily convincing if I don’t think through the consequences.” Unless you mean good to include good for advancing the discussion but I didn’t get that impression and in any case it’s still worth saying that’s not what most people mean when they say something is a good argument.
“If it’s a convincing argument, and the counterargument is also convincing, upvote both.” <--- that shouldn’t be happening. If an argument is convincing despite it having a convincing counterargument that means you weren’t paying enough attention.
Unless you mean good to include good for advancing the discussion but I didn’t get that impression
Advancing the discussion was the purpose of the rules I tried to forward. See this statement: “A faulty line of argument provides opportunity for rebuttal, and so for our test has value even then; that is, I want some faulty lines of argument here”
After all, there may be a non-obvious counterargument to the obvious counterargument. A faulty line of argument may be a good line of argument wrapped in unnecessary faulty logic or assumptions.
“Upvote and downvote based on whether or not you find an argument convincing in the context in which it was raised. This means if it’s a good argument against the argument it is responding to, not whether or not there’s a good/obvious counterargument to it; if you have a good counterargument, raise it.”
It can’t be a good counterargument if there’s a good obvious counterargument to it. obvious but not good is fine, good but not obvious might be/is sorta fine but not both. You could well have meant either, as a forward slash tends to mean or, but I and/or is also pretty common. Good argument shouldn’t mean “momentarily convincing if I don’t think through the consequences.” Unless you mean good to include good for advancing the discussion but I didn’t get that impression and in any case it’s still worth saying that’s not what most people mean when they say something is a good argument.
“If it’s a convincing argument, and the counterargument is also convincing, upvote both.” <--- that shouldn’t be happening. If an argument is convincing despite it having a convincing counterargument that means you weren’t paying enough attention.
Unless you mean good to include good for advancing the discussion but I didn’t get that impression
Advancing the discussion was the purpose of the rules I tried to forward. See this statement: “A faulty line of argument provides opportunity for rebuttal, and so for our test has value even then; that is, I want some faulty lines of argument here”
After all, there may be a non-obvious counterargument to the obvious counterargument. A faulty line of argument may be a good line of argument wrapped in unnecessary faulty logic or assumptions.