This is like saying that anyone who takes the singularity seriously should be dedicating every waking moment to FAI theory. It’s just naive, and frankly, sounds stupid when atheists tell Christians what they would do if they “truly believed”. Evangelical Christians have put more thought into how to keep people out of hell than you have. They know, for example, that being too pushy trying to win converts just drives people away (because they’ve tried it). They also know that acts of religious terrorism, religious wars, or genecide could backfire, discrediting their religion (tried that too).
This is like saying that anyone who takes the singularity seriously should be dedicating every waking moment to FAI theory.
You are wrong.
It’s just naive
Of course it is “naive”. That’s the word you use for when people take far mode beliefs literally rather than as verbal symbols used to signal group affiliation.
Evangelical Christians have put more thought into how to keep people out of hell than you have.
No they haven’t. I was an Evangelical Christian for 22 years and did far more thinking about such things than the mean, median and mode Evangelical Christian. I am also more than passably familiar with the kind of reasoning used by Evangelical Christian leaders of various levels of shrewdness. I can assure you that next to none of them are naive enough to base their decision making on literal min-maxing of near infinite positive and negative utilities in heaven and hell. This isn’t surprising—Christianity isn’t based upon consequentialism in the first place.
That explains things, there appears to be no way back from there. What would your young self thought of you now?
The common factor here; that you need to evangelize about something; what exactly that something is, does not appear to concern you. Some examples of your evangelical ‘thoughts’ from your posts over the past few days:
… I mean that is bullshit …
… Nonsense …
… a more ethical option would be to murder as many Muslims, Atheists and Buddhists … as you can …
… An even better option is to kill all males who will not convert …
… You are wrong …
… No they haven’t …
… it is “naive” … when people take … beliefs literally …
I could go on, but that would be even more boring than the original diatribes from which these fragments were abstracted. How wrong can one possibly be; evangelism is the last thing expected on a forum which claims to be:
… devoted to refining the art of human rationality …
Please convert back to some appropriate religion, before you lose any last semblance of credibility. Perhaps then you can die a happy man, and the other users on LW can resume normal rational discourse.
This is like saying that anyone who takes the singularity seriously should be dedicating every waking moment to FAI theory. It’s just naive, and frankly, sounds stupid when atheists tell Christians what they would do if they “truly believed”. Evangelical Christians have put more thought into how to keep people out of hell than you have. They know, for example, that being too pushy trying to win converts just drives people away (because they’ve tried it). They also know that acts of religious terrorism, religious wars, or genecide could backfire, discrediting their religion (tried that too).
TL;DR stop concern trolling Christians!
You are wrong.
Of course it is “naive”. That’s the word you use for when people take far mode beliefs literally rather than as verbal symbols used to signal group affiliation.
No they haven’t. I was an Evangelical Christian for 22 years and did far more thinking about such things than the mean, median and mode Evangelical Christian. I am also more than passably familiar with the kind of reasoning used by Evangelical Christian leaders of various levels of shrewdness. I can assure you that next to none of them are naive enough to base their decision making on literal min-maxing of near infinite positive and negative utilities in heaven and hell. This isn’t surprising—Christianity isn’t based upon consequentialism in the first place.
Avoid inflationary use of terms.
That explains things, there appears to be no way back from there. What would your young self thought of you now?
The common factor here; that you need to evangelize about something; what exactly that something is, does not appear to concern you. Some examples of your evangelical ‘thoughts’ from your posts over the past few days:
I could go on, but that would be even more boring than the original diatribes from which these fragments were abstracted. How wrong can one possibly be; evangelism is the last thing expected on a forum which claims to be:
Please convert back to some appropriate religion, before you lose any last semblance of credibility. Perhaps then you can die a happy man, and the other users on LW can resume normal rational discourse.