To give an example, Golden Retrievers are much more cherry-picked than Cotra’s lion/chimpanzee examples. Of all the species on Earth, the ones we’ve successfully domesticated are a tiny, tiny minority. Maybe you’d say we have a high success rate when we try to domesticate a species, but that took a long time in each case and is still meaningfully incomplete.
My basic response is that, while you can find reasons to believe that the golden retriever analogy is worse than the chimpanzee analogy, you can equally find reasons to think the chimpanzee analogy is worse, and there isn’t really a strong argument either way. For example, it’s not a major practice among researchers to selectively breed chimpanzees, as far as I can tell, whereas by contrast AIs are selected (by gradient descent) to exhibit positive behaviors. I think this is actually a huge weakness in the chimp analogy, since “selective breeding” looks way more similar to what we’re doing with AIs compared to the implicit image of plucking random animals from nature and putting them into our lives.
But again, I’m not really trying to say “just use a different analogy”. I think there’s a big problem if we use analogies selectively at all; and if we’re doing that, we should probably try to be way more rigorous.
My basic response is that, while you can find reasons to believe that the golden retriever analogy is worse than the chimpanzee analogy, you can equally find reasons to think the chimpanzee analogy is worse, and there isn’t really a strong argument either way. For example, it’s not a major practice among researchers to selectively breed chimpanzees, as far as I can tell, whereas by contrast AIs are selected (by gradient descent) to exhibit positive behaviors. I think this is actually a huge weakness in the chimp analogy, since “selective breeding” looks way more similar to what we’re doing with AIs compared to the implicit image of plucking random animals from nature and putting them into our lives.
But again, I’m not really trying to say “just use a different analogy”. I think there’s a big problem if we use analogies selectively at all; and if we’re doing that, we should probably try to be way more rigorous.