Seriously, is this the level of discussion: “the study discarded some eye witness reports, so I am fully justified in discarding the rest as well” ?
“Assuming these people actually saw something, how can we make the leap to aliens? ”
As discussed elsewhere you are completely right. In the cases where we just see something on the sky that cannot be explained by anything we know, we cannot just jump to the aliens conclusion. But it leaves a massive phenomena to be explained, which should spark massive scientific investigation.
Also this resolution doesn’t account for the cases where little grey men actually emerge from these objects. They may not be from another planet, but alternative hypothesis’s aren’t really a dime a dozen here.
Seriously, is this the level of discussion: “the study discarded some eye witness reports, so I am fully justified in discarding the rest as well” ?
The trend is for these mysteries to have boring solutions. Eyewitness testimony is known to be unreliable. There is no physical evidence. All that is left is a very small amount of people who claim to have seen something that they don’t understand; color me unimpressed.
But it leaves a massive phenomena to be explained, which should spark massive scientific investigation.
I would imagine that the number of eyes and instruments aimed upwards would be at an all-time high already. Satellites are recording images of our planet from every angle. What, exactly, should scientists be studying? What evidence is there to pour over? How can new evidence be gathered?
Also this resolution doesn’t account for the cases where little grey men actually emerge from these objects.
Have little grey men actually emerged from objects? Or is that just what people have claimed? There is a significant difference between those two statements and your choice of phrasing indicates an unjustified bias.
A personal note: I suffer from chronic sleep paralysis and regularly have wild, terrifying hypnagogic hallucinations, many of which take on the form of the standard alien abduction scenario. An unintended consequence of my childhood obsession with The X-Files, no doubt. I have seen demons, elder gods, and greys with my own wide open eyes and I believe in none of them. When confronted with an unknown, it is possible for the mind to run amok with myth and fantasy. We’re all susceptible to this and cannot be cautious enough about what we accept as truth.
“The trend is for these mysteries to have boring solutions. Eyewitness testimony is known to be unreliable.”
As discussed elsewhere in this thread this is not the same as saying they all are 100% fallible. By far, as stated in the Project Blue Book Special Report No. 14.
“There is no physical evidence. All that is left is a very small amount of people who claim to have seen something that they don’t understand;”
Where did you get these statements from? Thin air? Any references on it? You obviously hasn’t looked into this.
“Have little grey men actually emerged from objects? Or is that just what people have claimed? There is a significant difference between those two statements and your choice of phrasing indicates an unjustified bias.”
As said in the original post my belief is utterly uninteresting—I could be lunatic. What matters is the arguments and references I can come up with.
As discussed elsewhere in this thread this is not the same as saying they all are 100% fallible.
No disagreement here. Where we seem to disagree is whether or not the 22% remaining unknowns qualify as positive evidence towards anything.
Where did you get these statements from? Thin air? Any references on it? You obviously hasn’t looked into this.
I assumed that if there was physical evidence then you would have used it to bolster your argument. Is there any?
I read the wiki article you linked to. I came out believing that the study concluded that 22% of cases could not be explained. This, apparently, means a lot more to you than it does to me. No big deal.
Seriously, is this the level of discussion: “the study discarded some eye witness reports, so I am fully justified in discarding the rest as well” ?
“Assuming these people actually saw something, how can we make the leap to aliens? ”
As discussed elsewhere you are completely right. In the cases where we just see something on the sky that cannot be explained by anything we know, we cannot just jump to the aliens conclusion. But it leaves a massive phenomena to be explained, which should spark massive scientific investigation. Also this resolution doesn’t account for the cases where little grey men actually emerge from these objects. They may not be from another planet, but alternative hypothesis’s aren’t really a dime a dozen here.
The trend is for these mysteries to have boring solutions. Eyewitness testimony is known to be unreliable. There is no physical evidence. All that is left is a very small amount of people who claim to have seen something that they don’t understand; color me unimpressed.
I would imagine that the number of eyes and instruments aimed upwards would be at an all-time high already. Satellites are recording images of our planet from every angle. What, exactly, should scientists be studying? What evidence is there to pour over? How can new evidence be gathered?
Have little grey men actually emerged from objects? Or is that just what people have claimed? There is a significant difference between those two statements and your choice of phrasing indicates an unjustified bias.
A personal note: I suffer from chronic sleep paralysis and regularly have wild, terrifying hypnagogic hallucinations, many of which take on the form of the standard alien abduction scenario. An unintended consequence of my childhood obsession with The X-Files, no doubt. I have seen demons, elder gods, and greys with my own wide open eyes and I believe in none of them. When confronted with an unknown, it is possible for the mind to run amok with myth and fantasy. We’re all susceptible to this and cannot be cautious enough about what we accept as truth.
“The trend is for these mysteries to have boring solutions. Eyewitness testimony is known to be unreliable.”
As discussed elsewhere in this thread this is not the same as saying they all are 100% fallible. By far, as stated in the Project Blue Book Special Report No. 14.
“There is no physical evidence. All that is left is a very small amount of people who claim to have seen something that they don’t understand;”
Where did you get these statements from? Thin air? Any references on it? You obviously hasn’t looked into this.
“Have little grey men actually emerged from objects? Or is that just what people have claimed? There is a significant difference between those two statements and your choice of phrasing indicates an unjustified bias.”
As said in the original post my belief is utterly uninteresting—I could be lunatic. What matters is the arguments and references I can come up with.
No disagreement here. Where we seem to disagree is whether or not the 22% remaining unknowns qualify as positive evidence towards anything.
I assumed that if there was physical evidence then you would have used it to bolster your argument. Is there any?
I read the wiki article you linked to. I came out believing that the study concluded that 22% of cases could not be explained. This, apparently, means a lot more to you than it does to me. No big deal.
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