Most animals we farm experience reality (including pain) in a human-enough-way that humanity’s CEV will be horrified we allowed it to go on as long as we did. 80%
The same applies to most wildlife (most animals’ lives have negative utility). 50%
(Note: I waffled on whether or not this was ruled out on the “no preferences disguised as beliefs” rule, but settled on “experience reality” as an empirical-enough question to be, eventually, objectively decided)
I upvoted, mostly because of how low the estimate of the second claim was. I’m a bit more confident than that.
The other factor was the “human-enough-way” phrasing.
It was a little difficult to choose how to vote because you put two fairly distinct claims in one post.
Irrationality game:
Most animals we farm experience reality (including pain) in a human-enough-way that humanity’s CEV will be horrified we allowed it to go on as long as we did. 80%
The same applies to most wildlife (most animals’ lives have negative utility). 50%
(Note: I waffled on whether or not this was ruled out on the “no preferences disguised as beliefs” rule, but settled on “experience reality” as an empirical-enough question to be, eventually, objectively decided)
Horrified we allowed wildlife to go on? What alternative do you propose?
Heh. Given that the parent post said “most animals’ lives have negative utility” the alternative is obvious:
KILL THEM ALL!!!
:-D
I think the OP meant “horrified we allowed [farming] to go on.”
I upvoted, mostly because of how low the estimate of the second claim was. I’m a bit more confident than that. The other factor was the “human-enough-way” phrasing.
It was a little difficult to choose how to vote because you put two fairly distinct claims in one post.
My understanding is that if your probability estimate is higher than the one given, you’re supposed to downvote.
That is not my understanding.