@Eliezer: Vassar, surprised to see you seconding Roko. Did you confuse his post with someone else’s? Roko, convergent instrumental values are neither universalizable nor objective.
What exactly do you mean by these words? I fear that we may be using the same words to mean different things, hence our disagreements...
A paperclip maximizer and a cheesecake maximizer both want to survive, and to capture all the resources in the universe; they don’t want each other to survive, and would disagree about how to allocate the resources. Even if they negotiate, they would still prefer the other dead;
I agree with this, but why do you think that this is important?
and we humans would prefer that both of them never exist in the first place.
I agree with this, I don’t advocate creating a paperclip maximizer.
@Eliezer: Vassar, surprised to see you seconding Roko. Did you confuse his post with someone else’s? Roko, convergent instrumental values are neither universalizable nor objective.
What exactly do you mean by these words? I fear that we may be using the same words to mean different things, hence our disagreements...
A paperclip maximizer and a cheesecake maximizer both want to survive, and to capture all the resources in the universe; they don’t want each other to survive, and would disagree about how to allocate the resources. Even if they negotiate, they would still prefer the other dead;
I agree with this, but why do you think that this is important?
and we humans would prefer that both of them never exist in the first place.
I agree with this, I don’t advocate creating a paperclip maximizer.