Vassar, surprised to see you seconding Roko. Did you confuse his post with someone else’s?
Roko, convergent instrumental values are neither universalizable nor objective. A paperclip maximizer and a cheesecake maximizer both want to survive, and to capture all the resources in the universe; they don’t want each other to survive, and would disagree about how to allocate the resources. Even if they negotiate, they would still prefer the other dead; and we humans would prefer that both of them never exist in the first place.
J Thomas, I didn’t say that no human wouldn’t think of cannibalizing girls, I’m saying it wouldn’t occur to you, and did not in fact occur to the group selectionists. Anthropomorphism can just as easily be 1st-World-o-morphism and usually is.
Vassar, surprised to see you seconding Roko. Did you confuse his post with someone else’s?
Roko, convergent instrumental values are neither universalizable nor objective. A paperclip maximizer and a cheesecake maximizer both want to survive, and to capture all the resources in the universe; they don’t want each other to survive, and would disagree about how to allocate the resources. Even if they negotiate, they would still prefer the other dead; and we humans would prefer that both of them never exist in the first place.
J Thomas, I didn’t say that no human wouldn’t think of cannibalizing girls, I’m saying it wouldn’t occur to you, and did not in fact occur to the group selectionists. Anthropomorphism can just as easily be 1st-World-o-morphism and usually is.