just because “I don’t want to see more of this” doesn’t mean it’s up to me to influence whether anyone else can see it.
I feel like this proves more than you want. For example, is it up to you to influence whether someone sees more of something, just because you want to see more of it?
Similarly, it’s also helpful to get a reason for up votes, but enforcing that a reason be given can reduce the amount of information-aggregation that will occur, on some margins. What justifies an asymmetry between how we aggregate positive information and how we aggregate negative information? Or would you also argue that up votes should come with reasons?
I wrote this comment in response to an immediate down-vote of a comment I posted which removed it from view. The tone of which wasn’t all fluffy and nice and safe-space-esk but it was factually correct and an important point. I’d rather be direct on LW than worrying about hurting someone’s feelings.
I can only speak from my experiences, but the speed at which my first post got voted down (alignment and balance of the human body) was a surprise (negative vote = no-one else would see it) After months of consideration the only conclusion I reach is that someone didn’t like me using ‘alignment’ without talking about AI, but I don’t know. There was no explanation. No reason. I get the impression that negative karma is an emotional response rather than rational in many cases.
I don’t know how the “sorted by magic” karma system works and the effect of up-votes on how visible something is, but I have observed that negative votes hides things. Up-votes feel good and the effect of an up-vote is very different from a negative vote so I have no problem with an asymmetry in how they are applied.
As a new user I might have given up on LW but what I am here to share is too important to be put off by a couple of randoms not liking my stuff. It’s not a welcoming place when negative karma is given with no explanation and I’m afraid to say (afraid of more negative votes) there appears to be a lot of cronyism and a degree of myopic thinking on the site (maybe only one or two users but they can have great influence).
I have to give comments on my posts some time to settle when they don’t instantly please me. I believe having to give a reason for a negative vote would encourage this. It’s easy to click down but can it be justified?
I live in hope that people who consider themselves rational can take a step back and think rather than instantly react but we’re still human (all hail the AI master...).
I feel like this proves more than you want. For example, is it up to you to influence whether someone sees more of something, just because you want to see more of it?
Similarly, it’s also helpful to get a reason for up votes, but enforcing that a reason be given can reduce the amount of information-aggregation that will occur, on some margins. What justifies an asymmetry between how we aggregate positive information and how we aggregate negative information? Or would you also argue that up votes should come with reasons?
I wrote this comment in response to an immediate down-vote of a comment I posted which removed it from view. The tone of which wasn’t all fluffy and nice and safe-space-esk but it was factually correct and an important point. I’d rather be direct on LW than worrying about hurting someone’s feelings.
I can only speak from my experiences, but the speed at which my first post got voted down (alignment and balance of the human body) was a surprise (negative vote = no-one else would see it) After months of consideration the only conclusion I reach is that someone didn’t like me using ‘alignment’ without talking about AI, but I don’t know. There was no explanation. No reason. I get the impression that negative karma is an emotional response rather than rational in many cases.
I don’t know how the “sorted by magic” karma system works and the effect of up-votes on how visible something is, but I have observed that negative votes hides things. Up-votes feel good and the effect of an up-vote is very different from a negative vote so I have no problem with an asymmetry in how they are applied.
As a new user I might have given up on LW but what I am here to share is too important to be put off by a couple of randoms not liking my stuff. It’s not a welcoming place when negative karma is given with no explanation and I’m afraid to say (afraid of more negative votes) there appears to be a lot of cronyism and a degree of myopic thinking on the site (maybe only one or two users but they can have great influence).
I have to give comments on my posts some time to settle when they don’t instantly please me. I believe having to give a reason for a negative vote would encourage this. It’s easy to click down but can it be justified?
I live in hope that people who consider themselves rational can take a step back and think rather than instantly react but we’re still human (all hail the AI master...).