And yet the current norms of discussion are ones that leave a large proportion of the women here fighting through some measure of fear and discomfort to post—but not the men.
How do you know how the men feel in discussions like these? Have you asked them? It’s not comfortable feeling that you’re being made into the Bad Guy. Many men, including myself, base a lot of their self-image on what women think of them, and the kind of acceptance women show them. I doubt komponisto feels that great right now, and I don’t think he deserves to continue to be villified after clarifying his original problematic comment.
Some that like lesswrong-type discussions may find dealing with the PUA-related talk here too mentally and emotionally draining for the site to be a net positive in experience.
PUA-related talk is a lesswrong-type discussion. It’s the same people. We are just dealing with an amped-up level of inferential distance, biases, and disparity between priors due to different experiences.
I doubt komponisto feels that great right now, and I don’t think he deserves to continue to be villified after clarifying his original problematic comment.
From the karma scores on his clarifying comments, I think many people here understand his perspective and support it. To say that he’s been villified is a pretty severe exaggeration.
How do you know how the men feel in discussions like these? Have you asked them? It’s not comfortable feeling that you’re being made into the Bad Guy. Many men, including myself, base a lot of their self-image on what women think of them, and the kind of acceptance women show them. I doubt komponisto feels that great right now, and I don’t think he deserves to continue to be villified after clarifying his original problematic comment.
PUA-related talk is a lesswrong-type discussion. It’s the same people. We are just dealing with an amped-up level of inferential distance, biases, and disparity between priors due to different experiences.
From the karma scores on his clarifying comments, I think many people here understand his perspective and support it. To say that he’s been villified is a pretty severe exaggeration.