Grandparent asked for citations; the relevant article has several.
The source of your confusion is the meaning of the phrase ‘Citation Needed’. It seldom has anything to do with wanting citations. Actually giving them to him is like answering a (bad) rhetorical question with a literal answer that effectively refutes the rhetorical point of asking it.
“My beliefs are the default and privileged. You have the burden of justifying your beliefs to me.”
“Get back in your place! Who do you think you are?”
“Your momma is inconsistent with General Relativity! But I’m saying it using an intellectual meme rather than the low brow meme.”
Basically, if someone told me ‘Citation Needed!’ in the same conversation that they out of the blue told me I was insane then I would expect them to do whatever they could to find a way to sneer at or dismiss the citations I proceed to give them. I would expect them to feel like their grasp for dominance backfired and try to dig themselves out of what feels like a hole.
This isn’t to say that ‘citation needed’ is never used literally or never appropriate. But I usually find that anyone who is actually interested in whether there are citations available tends to use different language in their reply.
Basically, if someone told me ‘Citation Needed!’ in the same conversation that they out of the blue told me I was insane
Those two things weren’t done by the same person. endoself used [Citation Needed]; PhilosophyFTW called him insane in the followup, for a different reason.
Those two things weren’t done by the same person. endoself used [Citation Needed]; PhilosophyFTW called him insane in the followup, for a different reason.
Ahh. That changes the likely meaning somewhat (greater weight to the first bullet point, less to the last one).
The source of your confusion is the meaning of the phrase ‘Citation Needed’. It seldom has anything to do with wanting citations. Actually giving them to him is like answering a (bad) rhetorical question with a literal answer that effectively refutes the rhetorical point of asking it.
What else does it mean?
“My beliefs are the default and privileged. You have the burden of justifying your beliefs to me.”
“Get back in your place! Who do you think you are?”
“Your momma is inconsistent with General Relativity! But I’m saying it using an intellectual meme rather than the low brow meme.”
Basically, if someone told me ‘Citation Needed!’ in the same conversation that they out of the blue told me I was insane then I would expect them to do whatever they could to find a way to sneer at or dismiss the citations I proceed to give them. I would expect them to feel like their grasp for dominance backfired and try to dig themselves out of what feels like a hole.
This isn’t to say that ‘citation needed’ is never used literally or never appropriate. But I usually find that anyone who is actually interested in whether there are citations available tends to use different language in their reply.
Ah, I see.
Those two things weren’t done by the same person. endoself used [Citation Needed]; PhilosophyFTW called him insane in the followup, for a different reason.
Ahh. That changes the likely meaning somewhat (greater weight to the first bullet point, less to the last one).