s/are not zombies/have qualia/ and you’ll get a little more accurate. A zombie, supposing such a thing is possible (which I doubt for all the reasons given in http://lesswrong.com/lw/p7/zombies_zombies ), is still a real, physical object. The objects of a simulation don’t even rise to zombie status.
A zombie … is still a real, physical object. The objects of a simulation don’t even rise to zombie status.
It’s really unclear what you mean by ‘zombie’, ‘real, physical object’, and ‘objects of a simulation’. But you’re right that Kevin meant by ‘zombie’ exactly ‘us without qualia’. I thought this was obvious in context.
Yes, dfranke’s argument seems to map to “we are not living in a simulation because we are not zombies and people living in a simulation are zombies”.
s/are not zombies/have qualia/ and you’ll get a little more accurate. A zombie, supposing such a thing is possible (which I doubt for all the reasons given in http://lesswrong.com/lw/p7/zombies_zombies ), is still a real, physical object. The objects of a simulation don’t even rise to zombie status.
It’s really unclear what you mean by ‘zombie’, ‘real, physical object’, and ‘objects of a simulation’. But you’re right that Kevin meant by ‘zombie’ exactly ‘us without qualia’. I thought this was obvious in context.
What is a physical object?
If you are not arguing for zombies, I am really confused about what you’re trying to argue for.