Moreover, even if there is a clean way of making such a separation, it is not clear to me that “meta-fairness” is a much simpler concept than “object-level fairness”. And it seems to me that the utility functions/game theory framework presumes not only that it is a simpler concept, but that it is somehow conceptually equivalent to the concept of “maximization” (which doesn’t seem to be true at all).
Well, MIRI’s framework presumes that. But MIRI’s framework is weird. I prefer the framework of utility functions and game theory as it’s usually studied, where multiplayer games are treated as their own thing and nobody expects the answer to fall out of single player utility maximization. Your post sounds to me like acceptance of that framework.
Well, MIRI’s framework presumes that. But MIRI’s framework is weird. I prefer the framework of utility functions and game theory as it’s usually studied, where multiplayer games are treated as their own thing and nobody expects the answer to fall out of single player utility maximization. Your post sounds to me like acceptance of that framework.
Fair enough, maybe I don’t have enough familiarity with non-MIRI frameworks to make an evaluation of that yet.