Fair point, but in practice when you actually have the debate, it very quickly becomes clear that it’s really the “commonly reported to be positive experiences” argument.
And for some, war and surviving hardship _do_ qualify—there’s plenty of examples of people seeking pain (or risk of pain) just because they crave “adventure”. IMO, this doesn’t reach anywhere as close to universal as parenthood does, but it seems like a related drive.
Fair point, but in practice when you actually have the debate, it very quickly becomes clear that it’s really the “commonly reported to be positive experiences” argument.
And for some, war and surviving hardship _do_ qualify—there’s plenty of examples of people seeking pain (or risk of pain) just because they crave “adventure”. IMO, this doesn’t reach anywhere as close to universal as parenthood does, but it seems like a related drive.