I know of a number of Jewish people (especially of Ashkenazi descent) who refused to categorize themselves as “White/Caucasian” and griped about having to be lumped into “other”.
I seriously doubt many ethnic Jews on LW would object to being described as white. But maybe I give too much weight to my model of Yvain and Eliezer.
Genetically Askenazi Jews cluster in between the Euro and Near Eastern populations (which are basically the same cluster to being with) and culturally they are pretty clearly Central/Eastern European. Using the “ethnic studies” take on race where “whiteness is privilege”, it seems quite laughable to put Jews in places like America as non-white since they are quite “privileged”.
For what it’s worth, I know a Jewish person who describes herself as “provisionally white”.
Aside from any nervousness caused by the third reich, she looks white when she’s around white people, but Hispanic to Hispanics. They ask her what country she’s from.
I also know an Italian-American (light skin, hair, and eyes) who ran into so much anti-Italian prejudice when she was young that she decided she wasn’t white. She’s since concluded that only the top 1% is white.
If you look at how race plays out in people’s minds, there’s a lot more variation than you might expect.
I know of a number of Jewish people (especially of Ashkenazi descent) who refused to categorize themselves as “White/Caucasian” and griped about having to be lumped into “other”.
I seriously doubt many ethnic Jews on LW would object to being described as white. But maybe I give too much weight to my model of Yvain and Eliezer.
Genetically Askenazi Jews cluster in between the Euro and Near Eastern populations (which are basically the same cluster to being with) and culturally they are pretty clearly Central/Eastern European. Using the “ethnic studies” take on race where “whiteness is privilege”, it seems quite laughable to put Jews in places like America as non-white since they are quite “privileged”.
I mark white on surveys generally. Privileged and pale and non-practicing. If someone asks me in person I say I’m jewish enough for hitler.
For what it’s worth, I know a Jewish person who describes herself as “provisionally white”.
Aside from any nervousness caused by the third reich, she looks white when she’s around white people, but Hispanic to Hispanics. They ask her what country she’s from.
I also know an Italian-American (light skin, hair, and eyes) who ran into so much anti-Italian prejudice when she was young that she decided she wasn’t white. She’s since concluded that only the top 1% is white.
If you look at how race plays out in people’s minds, there’s a lot more variation than you might expect.
Err, sorry, I meant Sephardi.
Well, according to legend Einstein answered “human”...
Not that I want to disparage the sentiment, but I’m unsure what this comment adds.
An example of a Jew refusing to classify himself as white. But I had missed “on LW” in the first sentence, so never mind.
In my experience, if we have 1000 respondents we should expect less than 20 ‘other’. I don’t think it’s worth another category to avoid griping.
But on the other hand I seem to remember Jewish people are over-represented here.
But on the other hand… No… There is no other hand!
I think I see what you did there.