My complaint is that is either a euphemism for autistic (in which case, just say autistic- if that feel “Squicky”, re-evaluate your statement), or it is so vague as to lose all meaning- someone with bi-polar disorder is non-neurotypical, but is no more likely to have made these than anyone else.
If you do mean specifically autistic, you may want to broaden your understanding of autism. Autism is not standard, it can present in many, many ways, including many that would not create this type of image. The images are indicative of a poor grasp of humor, and a poor grasp of the original subject matter, but I do not see a higher probability for an autistic person to create these against the general population.
My apologies, I was meaning a more general “you”, as in “the person who uses this phrase”. Not directed at you you, just the common you, and you are certainly not the you I meant for “you” to refer to.
or it is so vague as to lose all meaning- someone with bi-polar disorder is non-neurotypical, but is no more likely to have made these than anyone else.
Not actually true (in the specific example, although I support your general objection about terminology misuse). In a hypo-manic phase someone is more likely to get caught up with the kinda-clever notion of making Hanson memes and get carried away dumping all his ideas, exercising less judgement and restraint than he otherwise would. (Of course some time later they would later be able to look at their work and see why it isn’t funny and delete it. They are also more likely than average to come up with a whole bunch of awesome memes.)
Fair enough- I should have chosen a clearer example.
Sociopathy would be a perfect example (in the sense that I would expect them to be less likely to make terrible jokes like that). Dyslexia would work too. Definitely not schizophrenia though.
You’re one of the last people I would have expected to show strong moral disapproval for a neutrally-phrased, true statement. Which of these claims offends you more? “People on the autism spectrum usually have problems understanding or generating statements considered humorous by neurotypicals,” or “Obese people usually have problems climbing several flights of stairs quickly”?
You’re one of the last people I would have expected to show strong moral disapproval for a neutrally-phrased
The phrasing may be neutral but the decision to use it in the particular context was not, and that conveyed social meaning of the type that I felt it appropriate to assert opposition to. (A thought that I recall crossing my mind was “Hmm… this is getting dangerously close to ‘non-neurotypical person’ being used where ‘retard’ once may have been, before that became a politically incorrect move.”)
, true statement.
I am perhaps less confident of the Autism diagnostic capability of the memes in question. In fact, I might consider the fact that the person follows OvercomingBias at all to be stronger evidence!
Which of these claims offends you more? “People on the autism spectrum usually have problems understanding or generating statements considered humorous by neurotypicals,” or “Obese people usually have problems climbing several flights of stairs quickly”?
That isn’t a phrase I prefer to see used as (what amounts to) an insult.
My complaint is that is either a euphemism for autistic (in which case, just say autistic- if that feel “Squicky”, re-evaluate your statement), or it is so vague as to lose all meaning- someone with bi-polar disorder is non-neurotypical, but is no more likely to have made these than anyone else.
If you do mean specifically autistic, you may want to broaden your understanding of autism. Autism is not standard, it can present in many, many ways, including many that would not create this type of image. The images are indicative of a poor grasp of humor, and a poor grasp of the original subject matter, but I do not see a higher probability for an autistic person to create these against the general population.
(It likely isn’t your intention but I’m a little uncomfortable having these ‘you’ claims as replies to me when it isn’t me to whom they apply.)
My apologies, I was meaning a more general “you”, as in “the person who uses this phrase”. Not directed at you you, just the common you, and you are certainly not the you I meant for “you” to refer to.
Not actually true (in the specific example, although I support your general objection about terminology misuse). In a hypo-manic phase someone is more likely to get caught up with the kinda-clever notion of making Hanson memes and get carried away dumping all his ideas, exercising less judgement and restraint than he otherwise would. (Of course some time later they would later be able to look at their work and see why it isn’t funny and delete it. They are also more likely than average to come up with a whole bunch of awesome memes.)
Fair enough- I should have chosen a clearer example.
Sociopathy would be a perfect example (in the sense that I would expect them to be less likely to make terrible jokes like that). Dyslexia would work too. Definitely not schizophrenia though.
I agree, but I’m not sure it was intended as an insult. The effect in (some) readers is similar though, so maybe I’m splitting hairs.
You’re one of the last people I would have expected to show strong moral disapproval for a neutrally-phrased, true statement. Which of these claims offends you more? “People on the autism spectrum usually have problems understanding or generating statements considered humorous by neurotypicals,” or “Obese people usually have problems climbing several flights of stairs quickly”?
The phrasing may be neutral but the decision to use it in the particular context was not, and that conveyed social meaning of the type that I felt it appropriate to assert opposition to. (A thought that I recall crossing my mind was “Hmm… this is getting dangerously close to ‘non-neurotypical person’ being used where ‘retard’ once may have been, before that became a politically incorrect move.”)
I am perhaps less confident of the Autism diagnostic capability of the memes in question. In fact, I might consider the fact that the person follows OvercomingBias at all to be stronger evidence!
Neither of those offends me.