I imagined that Greens want to neurotoxin rats and Blues want to do nothing and live with rats. Blues argue that neurotoxining would kill more than just rats. And greens argue that rats are uncomfortable to live with.
Complex positions then look like “kill rats with bullets” or “herd rats into zoos”. In thought experiements this would be “fighting the hypothetical”. I think because it is about issues and not about human groups taking sides that “fighting the framing” should be done with these kinds of issues. Greens will argue that “kill rats with bullets” will leave some wounded rats alive or let them escape. Blues will argue that “herd rats into zoos” diminishes rat life quality. But we went from “rats or no rats” to “wiped rats, wounded rats, caged rats or freeroaming rats”.
Sure from one point of view the options are just how much killing/opressing we want to do? How about none? But one could also construct a view point about restaurant health safety to have. The correct amount of rats to have on your plate is 0 and any increase (keeping other things handled) is further failure. Answering whos carings we care about means some people will get less preferential treatment than under other arrangements. But positions like “lets neurotox 30% of the rats” that are just compromises without additional idea behind them. Reframings are probably not as synergestic with the poles but not all compromises are sensible reunderstandings of the field. “Centrism” is not inherently sophisticated.
My analogy extension might have been less than elegant as it easily turns into gruesome territority if you replace rats with any human group. But maybe it also highlights that it is easier to be sympathetic to health safety than bigotry.
I imagined that Greens want to neurotoxin rats and Blues want to do nothing and live with rats. Blues argue that neurotoxining would kill more than just rats. And greens argue that rats are uncomfortable to live with.
Complex positions then look like “kill rats with bullets” or “herd rats into zoos”. In thought experiements this would be “fighting the hypothetical”. I think because it is about issues and not about human groups taking sides that “fighting the framing” should be done with these kinds of issues. Greens will argue that “kill rats with bullets” will leave some wounded rats alive or let them escape. Blues will argue that “herd rats into zoos” diminishes rat life quality. But we went from “rats or no rats” to “wiped rats, wounded rats, caged rats or freeroaming rats”.
Sure from one point of view the options are just how much killing/opressing we want to do? How about none? But one could also construct a view point about restaurant health safety to have. The correct amount of rats to have on your plate is 0 and any increase (keeping other things handled) is further failure. Answering whos carings we care about means some people will get less preferential treatment than under other arrangements. But positions like “lets neurotox 30% of the rats” that are just compromises without additional idea behind them. Reframings are probably not as synergestic with the poles but not all compromises are sensible reunderstandings of the field. “Centrism” is not inherently sophisticated.
My analogy extension might have been less than elegant as it easily turns into gruesome territority if you replace rats with any human group. But maybe it also highlights that it is easier to be sympathetic to health safety than bigotry.