Having created a number of articles and made numerous edits on Wikipedia over the last 15 years, I’ve pretty much given up now. Because these days any edit I make is likely to be reverted by a self-appointed gatekeeper of the article in question, regardless of merit. And even articles I create with citations are marked for deletion because the citations are deemed not good enough. (Eg I recently created articles on the WELLBY and WALY, units of subjective well-being used in happiness economics. Both were swiftly removed by someone who obviously knows nothing about the topic. Citing the UN’s annual report on world happiness, written by the leading academics in the field, was not considered adequate! And unlike other articles mentioned by other commenters, there is nothing remotely controversial about this.)
Once upon a time the assumption was that new articles were probably worthwhile and would be improved in due course by you or other people. Now it seems to be that any new article is assumed wrong and bad unless you jump through a load of hoops to persuade some anonymous ignoramus otherwise.
This is so off-putting to anyone who wishes to improve Wikipedia; you are treated with passive-aggressive contempt. And the reverse of the original idea, viz. to encourage anyone to write & edit articles. The powers that be should really change this.
That said I do agree that creating new articles in Wikipedia can be hard and I would prefer policies to be different and while that is good it’s not the core of what I’m advocating here.
In cases where an edit is very likely to be reverted when done on the article, the place to have the discussion about the content in question is the talk page. That’s why I spoke in my post about voicing issues on the talk page.
The powers that be should really change this.
Wikipedia is democratic there are no “power that be”. Someone has to write the RfC and then enough people (there’s a minimum number of edits to be eligible) need to support the RfC. Admins don’t have any special voting rights.
If the people who are annoyed by the status quo leave instead of voting in the decisions to have better policy, policy won’t improve.
Indeed you can discuss edits on the talk page, but doing so does not prevent gatekeepers reverting anything at whim. So the position often is: your edit will not be accepted unless you’re prepared to spend an indefinite amount of time arguing the case for it.
This has always been the case and created problems at times, but the problem is now worse than ever. As, unlike before, your edit/article is now assumed guilty until proven innocent.
Establishing consensus does help preventing people from reverting at whim. A single person coming to an article alone doesn’t produce consensus for a change. That actually needs multiple people.
Having created a number of articles and made numerous edits on Wikipedia over the last 15 years, I’ve pretty much given up now. Because these days any edit I make is likely to be reverted by a self-appointed gatekeeper of the article in question, regardless of merit. And even articles I create with citations are marked for deletion because the citations are deemed not good enough. (Eg I recently created articles on the WELLBY and WALY, units of subjective well-being used in happiness economics. Both were swiftly removed by someone who obviously knows nothing about the topic. Citing the UN’s annual report on world happiness, written by the leading academics in the field, was not considered adequate! And unlike other articles mentioned by other commenters, there is nothing remotely controversial about this.)
Once upon a time the assumption was that new articles were probably worthwhile and would be improved in due course by you or other people. Now it seems to be that any new article is assumed wrong and bad unless you jump through a load of hoops to persuade some anonymous ignoramus otherwise.
This is so off-putting to anyone who wishes to improve Wikipedia; you are treated with passive-aggressive contempt. And the reverse of the original idea, viz. to encourage anyone to write & edit articles. The powers that be should really change this.
That said I do agree that creating new articles in Wikipedia can be hard and I would prefer policies to be different and while that is good it’s not the core of what I’m advocating here.
In cases where an edit is very likely to be reverted when done on the article, the place to have the discussion about the content in question is the talk page. That’s why I spoke in my post about voicing issues on the talk page.
Wikipedia is democratic there are no “power that be”. Someone has to write the RfC and then enough people (there’s a minimum number of edits to be eligible) need to support the RfC. Admins don’t have any special voting rights.
If the people who are annoyed by the status quo leave instead of voting in the decisions to have better policy, policy won’t improve.
Indeed you can discuss edits on the talk page, but doing so does not prevent gatekeepers reverting anything at whim. So the position often is: your edit will not be accepted unless you’re prepared to spend an indefinite amount of time arguing the case for it.
This has always been the case and created problems at times, but the problem is now worse than ever. As, unlike before, your edit/article is now assumed guilty until proven innocent.
Establishing consensus does help preventing people from reverting at whim. A single person coming to an article alone doesn’t produce consensus for a change. That actually needs multiple people.