This reminded me of a strong connection. I did the Landmark Forum a long time ago, and one of the main things they taught was ‘Story’. It is basically the Map/Territory distinction, and it’s usually applied to the Fundamental Attribution Error.
As in, remember to distinguish the parts of what you think that are more or less made up (that’s your story about them). I think they may have used the exact driving example you did.
I’m a bit rusty on it, but there are several distinctions that line up pretty well to LW-style rationality points, like
‘Empty and Meaningless’ <-> Materialism + ‘Joy in the Merely Real’
Thanks for the connection! If I remember correctly, I used the driving example because it was in Kahneman’s Thinking Fast and Slow, and likely he took it from elsewhere as well. Good and clear example to use.
BTW, if you have any links to the Landmark Forum “Story” example, please share them, it would be useful for me, and I imagine for others as well.
The Landmark Forum is done in-person. They rather make a point to not doing their stuff in other media to avoid IP headaches, since they’re explicitly for-profit, not mainly in it to raise the sanity waterline (though I expect they would like that too).
Other examples of story are, say, dealing with rejection (for a job, for a role, romantically, even simply declining to join an event) by remembering that it was probably due to contingent local factors and even if it wasn’t it probably isn’t personal… avoiding Learned Helplessness… basically getting to be more comfortable with not knowing rather than making something up, especially unpleasant things.
Story wasn’t usually applied to taking off the rose-colored glasses, though it could be.
Heh. I remember they had lots of people saying they were a cult for equally stupid reasons, but the accusations were even more hyperbolic than the accusations LW has received. Not a single one of them applied to anything I experienced there.
Thanks for sharing those ideas! I’ll put the examples you suggested of the Story into the pool of content that we use at Intentional Insights to write the blog posts, much appreciated!
I’m not aware of LW being called a cult, sad to learn that there are some people who do that. Oh well, such is life.
This reminded me of a strong connection. I did the Landmark Forum a long time ago, and one of the main things they taught was ‘Story’. It is basically the Map/Territory distinction, and it’s usually applied to the Fundamental Attribution Error.
As in, remember to distinguish the parts of what you think that are more or less made up (that’s your story about them). I think they may have used the exact driving example you did.
I’m a bit rusty on it, but there are several distinctions that line up pretty well to LW-style rationality points, like
‘Empty and Meaningless’ <-> Materialism + ‘Joy in the Merely Real’
‘stand’ <->‘Tsuyoku naratai’ (sp?)
… I forget the others
Thanks for the connection! If I remember correctly, I used the driving example because it was in Kahneman’s Thinking Fast and Slow, and likely he took it from elsewhere as well. Good and clear example to use.
BTW, if you have any links to the Landmark Forum “Story” example, please share them, it would be useful for me, and I imagine for others as well.
The Landmark Forum is done in-person. They rather make a point to not doing their stuff in other media to avoid IP headaches, since they’re explicitly for-profit, not mainly in it to raise the sanity waterline (though I expect they would like that too).
Other examples of story are, say, dealing with rejection (for a job, for a role, romantically, even simply declining to join an event) by remembering that it was probably due to contingent local factors and even if it wasn’t it probably isn’t personal… avoiding Learned Helplessness… basically getting to be more comfortable with not knowing rather than making something up, especially unpleasant things.
Story wasn’t usually applied to taking off the rose-colored glasses, though it could be.
Heh. I remember they had lots of people saying they were a cult for equally stupid reasons, but the accusations were even more hyperbolic than the accusations LW has received. Not a single one of them applied to anything I experienced there.
Thanks for sharing those ideas! I’ll put the examples you suggested of the Story into the pool of content that we use at Intentional Insights to write the blog posts, much appreciated!
I’m not aware of LW being called a cult, sad to learn that there are some people who do that. Oh well, such is life.