He certainly knows Popper better than me. I scorn the conversation because it is not stimulating me—not causing me to consider ideas I have never considered before. I scorn the guy (scorn may be a bit too strong here, but just go with it) because so far he has mostly presented slogans, rather than arguments. (Admitedly, I haven’t presented arguments either, but that is because his slogans strike me as either truisms or word games.)
The only thing I gained from this encounter was the link to the Critical Rationalism web site, where can be found links to writings by Popper and others. The CR site itself is, …, well, not great. For example, check out the “What is CR?” page where CR is contrasted with two other possible approaches to philosophy. Please actually check it out before continuing.
so far he has mostly presented slogans, rather than arguments.
It occurs to me that one thing he could do which would be both interesting and useful would be to go through the sequences, adding comments critiquing Eliezer’s epistemology lessons from the viewpoint of Popper and/or CR. Who knows? I might frequently find myself agreeing with him.
Indeed, that’s why I am in favor of voting on old comments. Ideally, people can continue to leave criticisms on the sequences, and good ones will rise to the top over time.
because so far he has mostly presented slogans, rather than arguments.
Yes, I asked for clarification of the slogans and got more slogans, and asked for arguments supporting the claims and was given the claims again. I decided at that point to disengage.
Now weren’t those subtle strawmen? :)
Indeed—I hadn’t bothered to check out the site, but it seems to me that most of the discipline of Philosophy falls outside “CR”’s “three major schools”, and they’re pretending Popper invented philosophy. It’s really quite terrible.
If I may use another “slogan”: communication is difficult. And another: misunderstandings are common. When you asked for clarification I wasn’t sure what you wanted. I guessed and looks like I got it wrong. So you just withdraw? That’s very Un-Popperian.
It is a reasonable interpretation of the “three major schools” analysis down near the bottom of the “What is CR” page at the “Critical Rationalism” website. See if you can talk someone into cleaning up that bit of enthusiasm. As they say “It’s not helping”.
He certainly knows Popper better than me. I scorn the conversation because it is not stimulating me—not causing me to consider ideas I have never considered before. I scorn the guy (scorn may be a bit too strong here, but just go with it) because so far he has mostly presented slogans, rather than arguments. (Admitedly, I haven’t presented arguments either, but that is because his slogans strike me as either truisms or word games.)
The only thing I gained from this encounter was the link to the Critical Rationalism web site, where can be found links to writings by Popper and others. The CR site itself is, …, well, not great. For example, check out the “What is CR?” page where CR is contrasted with two other possible approaches to philosophy. Please actually check it out before continuing.
Now weren’t those subtle strawmen? :)
It occurs to me that one thing he could do which would be both interesting and useful would be to go through the sequences, adding comments critiquing Eliezer’s epistemology lessons from the viewpoint of Popper and/or CR. Who knows? I might frequently find myself agreeing with him.
Indeed, that’s why I am in favor of voting on old comments. Ideally, people can continue to leave criticisms on the sequences, and good ones will rise to the top over time.
Yes, I asked for clarification of the slogans and got more slogans, and asked for arguments supporting the claims and was given the claims again. I decided at that point to disengage.
Indeed—I hadn’t bothered to check out the site, but it seems to me that most of the discipline of Philosophy falls outside “CR”’s “three major schools”, and they’re pretending Popper invented philosophy. It’s really quite terrible.
If I may use another “slogan”: communication is difficult. And another: misunderstandings are common. When you asked for clarification I wasn’t sure what you wanted. I guessed and looks like I got it wrong. So you just withdraw? That’s very Un-Popperian.
Really? Care to give a quote?
It is a reasonable interpretation of the “three major schools” analysis down near the bottom of the “What is CR” page at the “Critical Rationalism” website. See if you can talk someone into cleaning up that bit of enthusiasm. As they say “It’s not helping”.
That’s a really high standard.
Hmmm. I never thought of that.
If you go as far as:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CriticalRationalism/
...you may see some names you recognise.
LOL. That made my day. Be sure to let me know if you run across TH anywhere.
Incidentally, have you looked in at sbe recently? Pretty sad.