After thinking about the podcast some more one interesting aspect was:
And if you have any trouble, just call me and you can come in for a tune up. I give I give lifetime guarantees on my work. I’ll give you three unlimited tune ups for the rest of your life if you ever need me again. And I hope you will because if you don’t relapse and need me, I’ll never see you again. And I’ve really come to like you and feel very proud of you and affection towards you. And I’m sad to lose you now, but I wouldn’t have it any other way because you’re feeling joy now. And that’s that’s the greatest greatest thing for me to have you recover really rapidly. And the 40,000 hours of patience I had, I don’t think more than eight or ten ever contacted me for for tune ups.
David Burns seems to count this as evidence that his treatments are long-term effective. If only so few people contacted him again, to me that doesn’t seem to be evidence of long-term effectiveness but evidence that the people did not feel like contacting him again was a straightforward thing to do.
Given how much of a deal David Burns makes about the importance of measurement, this seems strange. He could easily send all his patients after a year a follow-up email to let them fill out a form of his depression scale but seems not to.
Sometimes they wish I could call them and say hello. Do you remember me? Especially like if they treated them when they were a suicidal teenager or something like that, who really tough. You know, I grew so fond of all the patience that I ever had. But you have to let them go. You can’t be, you know, calling them on the telephone. It would be like unethical or something.
It’s completely unclear to me why telephoning a past patient to check up on whether they are doing well would be unethical.
Yes, I also found that fishy. I tried finding negative reviews from patients online, but had a hard time with queries, because I didn’t know how to exclude reviews of his book properly.
After thinking about the podcast some more one interesting aspect was:
David Burns seems to count this as evidence that his treatments are long-term effective. If only so few people contacted him again, to me that doesn’t seem to be evidence of long-term effectiveness but evidence that the people did not feel like contacting him again was a straightforward thing to do.
Given how much of a deal David Burns makes about the importance of measurement, this seems strange. He could easily send all his patients after a year a follow-up email to let them fill out a form of his depression scale but seems not to.
It’s completely unclear to me why telephoning a past patient to check up on whether they are doing well would be unethical.
Yes, I also found that fishy. I tried finding negative reviews from patients online, but had a hard time with queries, because I didn’t know how to exclude reviews of his book properly.