You are judging curi and FI (Fallible Ideas) via your standards (LW standards), not FI’s standards. I think this is problematic.
The above post explicitely says that the ban isn’t a personal judgement of curi. It’s rather a question of whether it’s good or not to have curi around on LessWrong and that’s where LW standards matter.
Unpopularity is no reason for a ban
That seems like a sentiment indicative of ignoring the reason for which he was banned. It was a utilitarian argument. The fact that someone gets downvoted is Bayesian evidence that it’s not valuable for people to interact with him on LessWrong.
How is this different to pre-crime?
If you imprision someone who murdered in the past because you are afarid they murder again, that’s not pre-crime in most common senses of the word.
Additionally even if it would be, LW is not a place with virtue ethics standards but one with utilitarian standards. Taking action to prevent things that are likely to negatively effect LW from happening in the future is perfectly fine with the idea of good gardening.
If you stand in your garden you don’t ask “what crimes did the plants commit and how should they be punished?” but you focus on the future.
The above post explicitely says that the ban isn’t a personal judgement of curi. It’s rather a question of whether it’s good or not to have curi around on LessWrong and that’s where LW standards matter.
Isn’t it even worse then b/c no action was necessary?
But more to the point, isn’t the determination X person is not good to have around a personal judgement? It doesn’t apply to everyone else.
I think what habryka meant was that he wasn’t making a personal judgement.
The above post explicitely says that the ban isn’t a personal judgement of curi. It’s rather a question of whether it’s good or not to have curi around on LessWrong and that’s where LW standards matter.
That seems like a sentiment indicative of ignoring the reason for which he was banned. It was a utilitarian argument. The fact that someone gets downvoted is Bayesian evidence that it’s not valuable for people to interact with him on LessWrong.
If you imprision someone who murdered in the past because you are afarid they murder again, that’s not pre-crime in most common senses of the word.
Additionally even if it would be, LW is not a place with virtue ethics standards but one with utilitarian standards. Taking action to prevent things that are likely to negatively effect LW from happening in the future is perfectly fine with the idea of good gardening.
If you stand in your garden you don’t ask “what crimes did the plants commit and how should they be punished?” but you focus on the future.
Isn’t it even worse then b/c no action was necessary?
But more to the point, isn’t the determination X person is not good to have around a personal judgement? It doesn’t apply to everyone else.
I think what habryka meant was that he wasn’t making a personal judgement.