You mean people willing to say things likely to be true even if it isn’t socially acceptable to admit they are. Yes, I can see why people who are uncomfortable with reality would have a problem with that.
You mean people willing to say things likely to be true even if it isn’t socially acceptable to admit they are.
People holding similar positions to yours but expressing them in much less dickish ways have included, off the top of my head, Konkvistador (whose total karma is 88% positive), nydwracu (91% positive), Vladimir M (93% positive). Nyan Sandwich and Moss Piglet appear to have deleted their accounts, but I don’t recall them being downvoted much either—nor can I recall many people lamenting the presence of any of said commenters.
For comparison, advancedatheist is 59% positive and sam0345 (most likely James Donald) is 53% positive; also eridu, who expressed radical feminist opinions in a way almost as obnoxious as Jim expresses his, has since deleted his account, but IIRC his % positive was also in the mid 50s.
This may sound like an intricate Song of Ice and Fire fan theory, but has anybody checked whether eugine_nier and Jim Donald are the same person? For example, can we compare the IP of sam0345 and Eugine’s accounts? Alternatively, Yvain probably has access to the IP address for both posters.
(I am not the same username2 as above. This is my first post using the anonymous username2 account)
It seems very unlikely (< 10%) to me, given they have regularly commented on the same Armed and Dangerous threads for years, with no obvious reason for one person to use two aliases at the same time (also, Eugine has commented on Jim’s blog e.g.).
Very unlikely, I think. Eugine is, or claims to be, from somewhere ex-Soviet, and writes like a non-native. Jim seems straightforwardly American. I don’t see any obvious reason for either of those to be fake.
You mean people willing to say things likely to be true even if it isn’t socially acceptable to admit they are. Yes, I can see why people who are uncomfortable with reality would have a problem with that.
Or because you and Jim are being tedious assholes nobody likes to hang out with, while going on about the same predictable set of not socially acceptable stuff for years and years without having anything new and interesting to say after a while.
Or because you and Jim are being tedious assholes nobody likes to hang out with
Given the most obvious way to taboo “tedious assholes” I don’t see how this is different than what I wrote.
while going on about the same predictable set of not socially acceptable stuff for years
That’s because no one has yet offered a good argument for why we are wrong. They’ve just done the equivalent of sticking fingers in their ears and going “na-na-na I can’t hear you”. Sort of like what Ilya and yourself are doing right now.
without having anything new and interesting to say after a while.
Yes, we do, maybe you’d notice if you didn’t shut down your brain whenever you encountered a non-PC idea.
Yes, we do, maybe you’d notice if you didn’t shut down your brain whenever you encountered a non-PC idea.
I don’t think there’s been much elaboration on the ideas that were already floating around here five-ish years ago in the last few years. We’ve just had the few regulars jumping in with the same message, failing to start much interesting conversation, and growing increasingly cranky.
Making being a reactionary your life’s work isn’t very rewarding. It’s a feature of the present system that proponents who get boring and repetitive get thrown in the wood chipper and more clever and interesting ones take their place, but any single person will get stuck in their old material after a while.
You mean people willing to say things likely to be true even if it isn’t socially acceptable to admit they are. Yes, I can see why people who are uncomfortable with reality would have a problem with that.
People holding similar positions to yours but expressing them in much less dickish ways have included, off the top of my head, Konkvistador (whose total karma is 88% positive), nydwracu (91% positive), Vladimir M (93% positive). Nyan Sandwich and Moss Piglet appear to have deleted their accounts, but I don’t recall them being downvoted much either—nor can I recall many people lamenting the presence of any of said commenters.
For comparison, advancedatheist is 59% positive and sam0345 (most likely James Donald) is 53% positive; also eridu, who expressed radical feminist opinions in a way almost as obnoxious as Jim expresses his, has since deleted his account, but IIRC his % positive was also in the mid 50s.
So no, the social acceptability of a statement does not just depend on its factual content.
This may sound like an intricate Song of Ice and Fire fan theory, but has anybody checked whether eugine_nier and Jim Donald are the same person? For example, can we compare the IP of sam0345 and Eugine’s accounts? Alternatively, Yvain probably has access to the IP address for both posters.
(I am not the same username2 as above. This is my first post using the anonymous username2 account)
It seems very unlikely (< 10%) to me, given they have regularly commented on the same Armed and Dangerous threads for years, with no obvious reason for one person to use two aliases at the same time (also, Eugine has commented on Jim’s blog e.g.).
Very unlikely, I think. Eugine is, or claims to be, from somewhere ex-Soviet, and writes like a non-native. Jim seems straightforwardly American. I don’t see any obvious reason for either of those to be fake.
Consider the possibility that Ilya doesn’t mean what you say he means.
I don’t know what Ilya means, that’s way I’m asking and giving by best guess.
This:
isn’t what asking looks like.
I notice we’ve already gone two rounds of comments without you providing any alternate explanation.
Whyever should it be my job to provide alternate explanations?
Because you’re the one who asserted that there are explanations for Ilya’s behaviour besides the ones listed here.
False.
Or because you and Jim are being tedious assholes nobody likes to hang out with, while going on about the same predictable set of not socially acceptable stuff for years and years without having anything new and interesting to say after a while.
Given the most obvious way to taboo “tedious assholes” I don’t see how this is different than what I wrote.
That’s because no one has yet offered a good argument for why we are wrong. They’ve just done the equivalent of sticking fingers in their ears and going “na-na-na I can’t hear you”. Sort of like what Ilya and yourself are doing right now.
Yes, we do, maybe you’d notice if you didn’t shut down your brain whenever you encountered a non-PC idea.
This entire discussion is about you, not about your ideas.
Wrong, try again.
I don’t think there’s been much elaboration on the ideas that were already floating around here five-ish years ago in the last few years. We’ve just had the few regulars jumping in with the same message, failing to start much interesting conversation, and growing increasingly cranky.
Making being a reactionary your life’s work isn’t very rewarding. It’s a feature of the present system that proponents who get boring and repetitive get thrown in the wood chipper and more clever and interesting ones take their place, but any single person will get stuck in their old material after a while.