Maybe we need a banned products store and a tort-proof banned products store, both.
Some libertarians might say that if you go into a “banned products shop”, passing clear warning labels that say “THINGS IN THIS STORE MAY KILL YOU”, and buy something that kills you, then it’s your own fault and you deserve it. If that were a moral truth, there would be no downside to having shops that sell banned products. It wouldn’t just be a net benefit, it would be a one-sided tradeoff with no drawbacks.
I don’t quite follow. Even when people “deserve” what they get, if what they “deserve” is death, their loved ones see that as a negative. Does this mean there are no moral truths, since every choice has a downside? Or am I overgeneralizing when I interpret it as “moral truths have no downside.”
I’m not certain I understand Eliezer’s argument there, but I think he simply made a mistake: I agree with you that if you do something that deserves a bad outcome and the bad outcome happens, it can still be bad that that happened and that can be a downside to whatever may have made it easier for you to do the bad thing.
Maybe we need a banned products store and a tort-proof banned products store, both.
I don’t quite follow. Even when people “deserve” what they get, if what they “deserve” is death, their loved ones see that as a negative. Does this mean there are no moral truths, since every choice has a downside? Or am I overgeneralizing when I interpret it as “moral truths have no downside.”
I’m not certain I understand Eliezer’s argument there, but I think he simply made a mistake: I agree with you that if you do something that deserves a bad outcome and the bad outcome happens, it can still be bad that that happened and that can be a downside to whatever may have made it easier for you to do the bad thing.