I think club game is the focus of most big PUA names because they became big before the big advent of online dating, and day game is considered much more difficult. I checked what David DeAngelo had to say about online dating, and he basically advises getting the woman off the internet and on the phone / for a coffee as soon as possible, what will definitely work if your offline game is already good, but really misses vast potential of online dating.
I’d guess the next generation of PUA artists will much more focused on exploring the full potential of online interaction—they might already be here, just not as well known.
Right now there’s so much PUA material with all kinds of approaches that I would be surprised if there was any that didn’t fit everyone’s goals and circumstances. There’s also quite well developed PUA community that can help separate valuable material from garbage.
I checked what David DeAngelo had to say about online dating, and he basically advises getting the woman off the internet and on the phone / for a coffee as soon as possible,
This is probably because most of his market will want to quickly validate that the woman looks like their profile. I’m on one or two PUA companies’ mailing lists, and recently saw a promo for tips to help you figure out if a woman’s picture is fake, or signals other undesirable qualities.
I’d guess the next generation of PUA artists will much more focused on exploring the full potential of online interaction—they might already be here, just not as well known.
Good point. In my wild days it was BBSes, not the Internet, but I met a lot of the women I dated or ONS-ed online, including my future wife. We didn’t have online pictures then (took forever to download, and nobody had a way to get them into the machines in the first place), so text was king, and that meant a goldmine for writerly types like moi.
For some reason, though, I tend to forget that other people might need help with their online game, since I was sort of a “natural” in that limited sphere. ;-)
This is probably because most of his market will want to quickly validate that the woman looks like their profile.
I never encountered fake picture problem, what makes me think it must be very rare. Most people don’t even do something as simple as selecting their best photo (professionally taken, or with proper hotornot testing), they just put a few random pictures. If you care a lot you can just ask for some extra pictures or webcam session (right now most people don’t have webcams, but it’s only matter of time), but it’s not really worth it.
I’m almost absolutely sure David DeAngelo simply wants to reuse his existing system in a new context, instead of developing a new approach. That’s perfectly understandable if you’re already good offline. If you’re not, but you’re smart and good at writing, I would I would advice going directly online to start with, and not bothering much with the club game.
I think club game is the focus of most big PUA names because they became big before the big advent of online dating, and day game is considered much more difficult. I checked what David DeAngelo had to say about online dating, and he basically advises getting the woman off the internet and on the phone / for a coffee as soon as possible, what will definitely work if your offline game is already good, but really misses vast potential of online dating.
I’d guess the next generation of PUA artists will much more focused on exploring the full potential of online interaction—they might already be here, just not as well known.
Right now there’s so much PUA material with all kinds of approaches that I would be surprised if there was any that didn’t fit everyone’s goals and circumstances. There’s also quite well developed PUA community that can help separate valuable material from garbage.
This is probably because most of his market will want to quickly validate that the woman looks like their profile. I’m on one or two PUA companies’ mailing lists, and recently saw a promo for tips to help you figure out if a woman’s picture is fake, or signals other undesirable qualities.
Good point. In my wild days it was BBSes, not the Internet, but I met a lot of the women I dated or ONS-ed online, including my future wife. We didn’t have online pictures then (took forever to download, and nobody had a way to get them into the machines in the first place), so text was king, and that meant a goldmine for writerly types like moi.
For some reason, though, I tend to forget that other people might need help with their online game, since I was sort of a “natural” in that limited sphere. ;-)
I never encountered fake picture problem, what makes me think it must be very rare. Most people don’t even do something as simple as selecting their best photo (professionally taken, or with proper hotornot testing), they just put a few random pictures. If you care a lot you can just ask for some extra pictures or webcam session (right now most people don’t have webcams, but it’s only matter of time), but it’s not really worth it.
I’m almost absolutely sure David DeAngelo simply wants to reuse his existing system in a new context, instead of developing a new approach. That’s perfectly understandable if you’re already good offline. If you’re not, but you’re smart and good at writing, I would I would advice going directly online to start with, and not bothering much with the club game.