We don’t plan to put in the extra effort to make a paper copy available. But later this year, Superintelligence will be available, and it will be both hardback and emblazoned with the word “Oxford.”
How much extra effort are you imagining it would be to make paper copies available of any given book? You already have cover art. Although checking the “Look Inside” on Amazon suggests that this one has not been well-proofread, let alone prettily typeset, I have somebody willing to do those things for free (well, for copies of the books) and I’m not a charitable organization—MIRI won’t ping its volunteers or throw fifty bucks at somebody to finagle CreateSpace?
Amazon’s ‘Look Inside’ shows the Kindle version, using whatever typesetting Amazon chooses; the PDF is better typeset. The main cost is researching the different options for making it available as a paperback and then verifying that research, which probably costs several hours of staff time, and our operations staff are currently doing higher-value work. If somebody I trust has already analyzed the options recently, and found the best choice or shown that it doesn’t matter much, then it should only take Alex 1-2 hours of his time to make the paperback available, which is probably worth it.
This sounds like bad instrumental rationality. If your current option is “don’t publish it in paperback at all”, and you are presented with an option you would be willing to take, publishing at a certain quality, if that quality was the best quality, then the fact that there may be better options you haven’t explored should never return your “best choice to make” to “don’t publish it in paperback at all.” Your only viable candidates should be: “Publish using a suboptimal option” and “Do verified research about what is the best option and then do that.”
As they say, “The perfect is the enemy of the good.”
Sure, but I’m not even sure at this stage that publishing a paperback version with CreateSpace is a better use of 2 hours of Alex’s time than the other stuff he’s doing. Are there hidden gotchas which make publishing worse than not-publishing even if it was totally free? (I’ve encountered many examples of this while running MIRI.) Will it actually take 5 hours of time rather than 2? I don’t know the answers to these questions, and this isn’t a priority. Deciding whether to publish a paperback copy of Smarter Than Us is, like, the 20th most important decision I’ll make this week. I’m not even sure that explaining all the different considerations I’m weighing for such a minor decision is worth the time I’ve spent typing these sentences. Anyway, I don’t mean to be rude and I understand why you and Alicorn are engaging me about this, it’s just that the decision is more complicated and less important (relative to all the invisible-to-LWers things we’re doing) than you might realize, and I don’t have time to explain it all. Again: if somebody can save us time on the initial research to figure out what’s a good idea, it might become competitive with the other things Alex is doing with his MIRI time.
I’m not clear on what Alex in particular has to do with this. Aren’t there people with lower opportunity cost you could go “hey, investigate self-publishing options” to? They are marketed to publishing-non-experts and while they don’t require zero skill, perhaps it doesn’t call for your scarcest and thinnest-spread people. Are you sure you don’t want to ask me any questions about my experience self-publishing with Createspace...?
Alex is just the one who would work with the files and CreateSpace, not necessarily the one who has to do the research about which company to publish through.
Another thing Alex is doing, btw, is finding a scalable way to outsource “general internet research” projects, without needing to find new contractor hours, validate them, sign a contract, etc. There was some service that looked awesome that I encountered 6 months ago when we had less money to spend on such things but now I can’t find it.
EDIT: Oh, and yes, I’d be happy to hear of your own experiences with (and judgements about) CreateSpace.
I have been happy with Createspace. It produces cheap-for-trade-quality sleek paperbacks, faithfully renders my cover art, is relatively easy to interact with in all the ways I haven’t chosen to delegate (and easy enough in those other ways that the delegate-ee is willing to work for one signed copy each of the books in question and a frontmatter acknowledgment and nothing else), and doesn’t cost any money up until I actually tell them to send me a book. I will happily show you three different volumes I have had Createspaced if you would like to see a physical copy and arrange to be near mine.
Another thing Alex is doing, btw, is finding a scalable way to outsource “general internet research” projects, without needing to find new contractor hours, validate them, sign a contract, etc. There was some service that looked awesome that I encountered 6 months ago when we had less money to spend on such things but now I can’t find it.
We don’t plan to put in the extra effort to make a paper copy available. But later this year, Superintelligence will be available, and it will be both hardback and emblazoned with the word “Oxford.”
How much extra effort are you imagining it would be to make paper copies available of any given book? You already have cover art. Although checking the “Look Inside” on Amazon suggests that this one has not been well-proofread, let alone prettily typeset, I have somebody willing to do those things for free (well, for copies of the books) and I’m not a charitable organization—MIRI won’t ping its volunteers or throw fifty bucks at somebody to finagle CreateSpace?
Amazon’s ‘Look Inside’ shows the Kindle version, using whatever typesetting Amazon chooses; the PDF is better typeset. The main cost is researching the different options for making it available as a paperback and then verifying that research, which probably costs several hours of staff time, and our operations staff are currently doing higher-value work. If somebody I trust has already analyzed the options recently, and found the best choice or shown that it doesn’t matter much, then it should only take Alex 1-2 hours of his time to make the paperback available, which is probably worth it.
This sounds like bad instrumental rationality. If your current option is “don’t publish it in paperback at all”, and you are presented with an option you would be willing to take, publishing at a certain quality, if that quality was the best quality, then the fact that there may be better options you haven’t explored should never return your “best choice to make” to “don’t publish it in paperback at all.” Your only viable candidates should be: “Publish using a suboptimal option” and “Do verified research about what is the best option and then do that.”
As they say, “The perfect is the enemy of the good.”
Sure, but I’m not even sure at this stage that publishing a paperback version with CreateSpace is a better use of 2 hours of Alex’s time than the other stuff he’s doing. Are there hidden gotchas which make publishing worse than not-publishing even if it was totally free? (I’ve encountered many examples of this while running MIRI.) Will it actually take 5 hours of time rather than 2? I don’t know the answers to these questions, and this isn’t a priority. Deciding whether to publish a paperback copy of Smarter Than Us is, like, the 20th most important decision I’ll make this week. I’m not even sure that explaining all the different considerations I’m weighing for such a minor decision is worth the time I’ve spent typing these sentences. Anyway, I don’t mean to be rude and I understand why you and Alicorn are engaging me about this, it’s just that the decision is more complicated and less important (relative to all the invisible-to-LWers things we’re doing) than you might realize, and I don’t have time to explain it all. Again: if somebody can save us time on the initial research to figure out what’s a good idea, it might become competitive with the other things Alex is doing with his MIRI time.
I’m not clear on what Alex in particular has to do with this. Aren’t there people with lower opportunity cost you could go “hey, investigate self-publishing options” to? They are marketed to publishing-non-experts and while they don’t require zero skill, perhaps it doesn’t call for your scarcest and thinnest-spread people. Are you sure you don’t want to ask me any questions about my experience self-publishing with Createspace...?
Alex is just the one who would work with the files and CreateSpace, not necessarily the one who has to do the research about which company to publish through.
Another thing Alex is doing, btw, is finding a scalable way to outsource “general internet research” projects, without needing to find new contractor hours, validate them, sign a contract, etc. There was some service that looked awesome that I encountered 6 months ago when we had less money to spend on such things but now I can’t find it.
EDIT: Oh, and yes, I’d be happy to hear of your own experiences with (and judgements about) CreateSpace.
I have been happy with Createspace. It produces cheap-for-trade-quality sleek paperbacks, faithfully renders my cover art, is relatively easy to interact with in all the ways I haven’t chosen to delegate (and easy enough in those other ways that the delegate-ee is willing to work for one signed copy each of the books in question and a frontmatter acknowledgment and nothing else), and doesn’t cost any money up until I actually tell them to send me a book. I will happily show you three different volumes I have had Createspaced if you would like to see a physical copy and arrange to be near mine.
Maybe https://www.fancyhands.com/ ?
I think it was a different one, but that’s the best match I’ve found so far, so maybe it is indeed FancyHands.
I’ve had a few people also asking about physical copies, btw.
Sounds expensive...