>My model of you is mostly not trying to do the “rally people in a direction” much at all.
Perhaps a bit off topic, but: I think actual me in fact is trying to “rally people in a direction” to a substantial degree!
Except that “rally” is perhaps not a very good word for my strategy. I’m not sure what to call it, but I think that I am very frequently trying to go, “LOOK AT THIS THING. Think about this thing. If I just tell you about it and argue for it you will not have looked at it, and I want you to look at it. I have looked at it and thought about it and I think it’s important, and I think it’s important that all of us look at it and think about it, because understanding it correctly may be critical to our collective success.” And my overarching project is perhaps something like “Cause people to be able to look at things.”
Nod, makes sense. But your project is fundamentally about the looking-at-things, whereas main is more like “let’s look at things when that’s useful” but it’s not the primary goal.
Harumph, I also say “let’s look at things when that’s useful” and I do not consider looking at things to be the primary goal. “Being able to look at things” is an instrumental goal toward “looking at things that it’s useful to look at”, and “figuring out which things it’s useful to look at” is a really big part of “being good at looking at things” [see forthcoming essay “Locating Fulcrum Experiences”]. (My harumph is frustration at my own failure to communicate, not at you.)
Like on various occasions I’ve [something other than rallied] people to look at groundedness, at courage, at dreams, at memory, at learning, at defensiveness, at boredom, at each particular CFAR unit, and at a bunch of other things besides looking itself. Looking itself is only central to my overarching project, because I think it’s a really really important piece of rationality that’s poorly developed in the communal art.
Yeah I agree you have done something-other-than-rallied that results in people looking at the things.
And yeah makes sense that my phrasing didn’t feel like an accurate description of what you said. (I think there is something-my-phrasing-was-meaning-to-point at that is probably a true distinction, but, not sure I can get any closer to it easily)
I also claim that I’ve been fairly successful thus far, at “[something other than rally] people in a direction”, in many cases. Perhaps what I am attempting to communicate in my partial-criticism of this essay is “boo rallying, find better ways to [something] people in directions”.
>My model of you is mostly not trying to do the “rally people in a direction” much at all.
Perhaps a bit off topic, but: I think actual me in fact is trying to “rally people in a direction” to a substantial degree!
Except that “rally” is perhaps not a very good word for my strategy. I’m not sure what to call it, but I think that I am very frequently trying to go, “LOOK AT THIS THING. Think about this thing. If I just tell you about it and argue for it you will not have looked at it, and I want you to look at it. I have looked at it and thought about it and I think it’s important, and I think it’s important that all of us look at it and think about it, because understanding it correctly may be critical to our collective success.” And my overarching project is perhaps something like “Cause people to be able to look at things.”
Nod, makes sense. But your project is fundamentally about the looking-at-things, whereas main is more like “let’s look at things when that’s useful” but it’s not the primary goal.
Harumph, I also say “let’s look at things when that’s useful” and I do not consider looking at things to be the primary goal. “Being able to look at things” is an instrumental goal toward “looking at things that it’s useful to look at”, and “figuring out which things it’s useful to look at” is a really big part of “being good at looking at things” [see forthcoming essay “Locating Fulcrum Experiences”]. (My harumph is frustration at my own failure to communicate, not at you.)
Like on various occasions I’ve [something other than rallied] people to look at groundedness, at courage, at dreams, at memory, at learning, at defensiveness, at boredom, at each particular CFAR unit, and at a bunch of other things besides looking itself. Looking itself is only central to my overarching project, because I think it’s a really really important piece of rationality that’s poorly developed in the communal art.
Yeah I agree you have done something-other-than-rallied that results in people looking at the things.
And yeah makes sense that my phrasing didn’t feel like an accurate description of what you said. (I think there is something-my-phrasing-was-meaning-to-point at that is probably a true distinction, but, not sure I can get any closer to it easily)
I also claim that I’ve been fairly successful thus far, at “[something other than rally] people in a direction”, in many cases. Perhaps what I am attempting to communicate in my partial-criticism of this essay is “boo rallying, find better ways to [something] people in directions”.
But maybe not. I can’t actually belief report “boo rallying”.