Beyond common negative statements, every one of them seems to have a very different vision of the future from the others. At least the practical differences between the theists and the non-theists would create an enormous gap if they all suddenly started to have some effect on big politics. Just look at all that happened to the Left since the last quarter of the 19th century.
Murray Rothbard
This dude sounds more socially permissive than ME, lol (and I often find myself the most permissive one in a RL conversation). I’d say that the potential gap in the American right whom you collectively label as the underdog (we’d need to disassemble&examine all our definitions of power and influence before we could say that for sure) might be larger than with the Left,
(as long as you don’t count extremes as outlying as Pol Pot)
Oh I fully agree. They are a patchwork of different value systems that feel (and indeed are) crushed under the weight of general movements of society.
But don’t underestimate on how much they could actually cooperate on when it came to actual policies. The left as fragmented and sectarian as it was and still is in some parts of Europe, has been very successful in influencing the intellectual and social norms not only laws in directions that when looking at history seems favourable to most involved in the wider political groups.
The actual result of economic inequality may seem as worse in the past by many, but had they not been active it would probably be much worse (as judged by their value systems).
Or look at the mainstream right. Christian fundamentalists, token libertarians and hawkish Neoconservatives… would any of these had it in itself given lots of power create a society compatible with any built by the other ones?
Beyond common negative statements, every one of them seems to have a very different vision of the future from the others. At least the practical differences between the theists and the non-theists would create an enormous gap if they all suddenly started to have some effect on big politics. Just look at all that happened to the Left since the last quarter of the 19th century.
This dude sounds more socially permissive than ME, lol (and I often find myself the most permissive one in a RL conversation). I’d say that the potential gap in the American right whom you collectively label as the underdog (we’d need to disassemble&examine all our definitions of power and influence before we could say that for sure) might be larger than with the Left, (as long as you don’t count extremes as outlying as Pol Pot)
Oh I fully agree. They are a patchwork of different value systems that feel (and indeed are) crushed under the weight of general movements of society.
But don’t underestimate on how much they could actually cooperate on when it came to actual policies. The left as fragmented and sectarian as it was and still is in some parts of Europe, has been very successful in influencing the intellectual and social norms not only laws in directions that when looking at history seems favourable to most involved in the wider political groups.
The actual result of economic inequality may seem as worse in the past by many, but had they not been active it would probably be much worse (as judged by their value systems).
Or look at the mainstream right. Christian fundamentalists, token libertarians and hawkish Neoconservatives… would any of these had it in itself given lots of power create a society compatible with any built by the other ones?