Tragedies of the commons usually involve some personal incentive to defect, which doesn’t seem true in the framework you have. Of course, you could get such an incentive if you include race dynamics where safety takes “extra time”, and then it would seem like a tragedy of the commons (though race to the bottom seems more appropriate)
If there is a cost to reducing Xrisk (which I think is a reasonable assumption), then there will be an incentive to defect, i.e. to underinvest in reducing Xrisk. There’s still *some* incentive to prevent Xrisk, but to some people everyone dying is not much worse than just them dying.
Ah, you’re right, we don’t really agree, I misunderstood.
I think we basically agree on actual object-level thing and I’m mostly disagreeing on the use of “tragedy of the commons” as a description of it. I don’t think this is important though so I’d prefer to drop it.
Tbc, I agree with this:
If there is a cost to reducing Xrisk (which I think is a reasonable assumption), then there will be an incentive [...] to underinvest in reducing Xrisk. There’s still *some* incentive to prevent Xrisk, but to some people everyone dying is not much worse than just them dying.
Tragedies of the commons usually involve some personal incentive to defect, which doesn’t seem true in the framework you have. Of course, you could get such an incentive if you include race dynamics where safety takes “extra time”, and then it would seem like a tragedy of the commons (though race to the bottom seems more appropriate)
If there is a cost to reducing Xrisk (which I think is a reasonable assumption), then there will be an incentive to defect, i.e. to underinvest in reducing Xrisk. There’s still *some* incentive to prevent Xrisk, but to some people everyone dying is not much worse than just them dying.
Cool, I think we agree.
I’m not sure. I was trying to disagree with your top level comment :P
Ah, you’re right, we don’t really agree, I misunderstood.
I think we basically agree on actual object-level thing and I’m mostly disagreeing on the use of “tragedy of the commons” as a description of it. I don’t think this is important though so I’d prefer to drop it.
Tbc, I agree with this: