I’m in favor of subforums — from these comments it seems to me that a significant fraction of people are coming to LW either for AI content, or for explicitly non-AI content (including some people who sometimes want one and sometimes the other); if those use cases are already so separate, it seems dumb to keep all those posts in the same stream, when most people are unhappy with that. (Yeah maybe I’m projecting because I’m personally unhappy with it, but, I am very unhappy.)
I used to be fine with the amount of AI content. Maybe a year ago I set a karma penalty on AI, and then earlier this year I increased that penalty to maximum and it still wasn’t enough, so a few months ago I hid all things tagged AI, and now even that is insufficient, because there are so many AI posts and not all of them are tagged correctly. I often go to Latest and see AI-related posts, and then go tag those posts with ‘AI’ and refresh, but this is a frustrating experience. The whole thing has made me feel annoyed and ugh-y about using LW, even though I think there are still a lot of posts here I want to see.
I also worry that the AI stuff — which has a semi-professionalized flavor — discourages more playful and exploratory content on the rest of the site. I miss what LW2.0 was like before this :(
Ah. We’d had on our todo list “make it so post authors are prompted to tag their posts before publishing them”, but it hadn’t been super prioritized. This comment updates me to ship this sooner so there’ll hopefully be fewer un-tagged AI posts.
Logging on today, I noticed that all of the posts with this problem (today) were personal blogposts; are those treated differently? Also some of these are tagged ‘ML’, but that makes it through the AI filter, which.… I guess is intended behavior :/
The situation is that posts show up in the moderator-queue, moderators take a few hours to get to them, and in the meanwhile they are personal blogposts. So if you’re okay with hiding all personal blogposts you can solve the problem that way. This would probably also hide other posts you want to see.
I’m hoping we can ship a “authors are nudged to give their post a core-tag” feature soon, which should alleviate a lot of the problem, although might not solve it entirely.
Wouldn’t generating psuedo-tags which users can opt in to see/filter by mostly solve this problem? Like, I’d have thought even a pre-DL-revolution classifier or clustering algorithm or GDA or something would have worked. Let alone querying GPT-instruct (or whatever) on whether or not an article has to do with AI. The pricing is quite cheap for Goose.AI or other models.
I don’t actually know how subforums are implemented on EA Forum but I was imagining like a big thing on the frontpage that’s like “Do you want to see the AI stuff or the non-AI stuff?”. Does this sound clunky when I write it out?… yes
I’m in favor of subforums — from these comments it seems to me that a significant fraction of people are coming to LW either for AI content, or for explicitly non-AI content (including some people who sometimes want one and sometimes the other); if those use cases are already so separate, it seems dumb to keep all those posts in the same stream, when most people are unhappy with that. (Yeah maybe I’m projecting because I’m personally unhappy with it, but, I am very unhappy.)
I used to be fine with the amount of AI content. Maybe a year ago I set a karma penalty on AI, and then earlier this year I increased that penalty to maximum and it still wasn’t enough, so a few months ago I hid all things tagged AI, and now even that is insufficient, because there are so many AI posts and not all of them are tagged correctly. I often go to Latest and see AI-related posts, and then go tag those posts with ‘AI’ and refresh, but this is a frustrating experience. The whole thing has made me feel annoyed and ugh-y about using LW, even though I think there are still a lot of posts here I want to see.
I also worry that the AI stuff — which has a semi-professionalized flavor — discourages more playful and exploratory content on the rest of the site. I miss what LW2.0 was like before this :(
Ah. We’d had on our todo list “make it so post authors are prompted to tag their posts before publishing them”, but it hadn’t been super prioritized. This comment updates me to ship this sooner so there’ll hopefully be fewer un-tagged AI posts.
Logging on today, I noticed that all of the posts with this problem (today) were personal blogposts; are those treated differently? Also some of these are tagged ‘ML’, but that makes it through the AI filter, which.… I guess is intended behavior :/
The situation is that posts show up in the moderator-queue, moderators take a few hours to get to them, and in the meanwhile they are personal blogposts. So if you’re okay with hiding all personal blogposts you can solve the problem that way. This would probably also hide other posts you want to see.
I’m hoping we can ship a “authors are nudged to give their post a core-tag” feature soon, which should alleviate a lot of the problem, although might not solve it entirely.
Wouldn’t generating psuedo-tags which users can opt in to see/filter by mostly solve this problem? Like, I’d have thought even a pre-DL-revolution classifier or clustering algorithm or GDA or something would have worked. Let alone querying GPT-instruct (or whatever) on whether or not an article has to do with AI. The pricing is quite cheap for Goose.AI or other models.
Could work, but it’s a bunch of upfront developer time.
I don’t actually know how subforums are implemented on EA Forum but I was imagining like a big thing on the frontpage that’s like “Do you want to see the AI stuff or the non-AI stuff?”. Does this sound clunky when I write it out?… yes
I would love an option to say “I don’t want to read another word about AI alignment ever”